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[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

@Mindgame Well, people not in power make all sorts of egregious statements for votes. They can't be trusted, especially not before the elections. But that is different from a Central Minister going on record to say that the prelims will be deferred. 


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@Kira0705 Na. The new calendars would be issued and UPSC will give atleast a 2 months heads up. It could possibly align the dates with 2016 cycle of holding the pre in Aug and mains in Dec. 


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In other news:

Making a very BOLD statement UPPSC has released its latest notification for the PCS2020 exams with affirmative dates and timelines, with the pre exam happening as early as on 21st June, 2020. Take that! :grin::sunglasses:

#CandidatesShockedUPPSCRocks #GoCoronaCoronaGO

There is nothing "rocking" about taking a stupid decision that could put lives in danger. It is criminal.

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@logan Meanwhile reports from USA are suggesting more bad news till the whole of June. Daily deaths to be up to around 3000.
No way with the relaxation of lockdown can the cases be controlled by mid-May. India is not special. Government was optimistic during lockdown 1.0 too when it was saying it has no plans to extend the lockdown. Rest is history.


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Upsc will check your temperature and then let u in.

If ur temperature is not normal ,will upsc let u take exam ,risking other candidates?

Tempr may rise due to other medical factor too !

The best thing upsc can do is use all district as exam centre.

Well all district have dm sdm who can take care of rest.

What if someone is asymptomatic? Most of the infections are transmitted in that stage and thermal screening cannot detect it.

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@Naadan_Parinda upsc has aready discarded online proposal...also they have hinted towards holding exam this year only... ..also prelim is a 1-day affair ,if university exams can happen then this can too ....and  where will the buck stop...people are talking about 2nd wave , god forbid if there is a 3rd wave,would that mean permanent delay ? oc not ..govt has already realised that lockdown is not the solution  . by end of this month flights will start too... 
brace for prelims announcement by next month.

Buck stops with the government. If I get sick due to a government held exam or worse still, my 92 year old grandpa gets sick because of me, I'll be calling my lawyers. And yes, waves make all the difference. 3rd wave won't come until next year and after vaccines come out I don't care how many waves corona comes in, we can have exams and reopen the economy fully. Until then don't ask people "to live with it." It is like condemning our elderly population to their graves. This argument reminds me of that stupid Florida kid on the beach who said " If I get corona, I get corona. At the end of the day, I'll not let it stop from living my life." We need to start acting more responsibly.

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@K_9 lol...so you would appear for an exam and then crib  that i got sick due to appearing in it..
btw there was no vaccine of Spanish flu till 1940 . (22years and 2 world wars) people literally learnt to live with it.
good luck with your vaccine wait
 
btw it presumptuous of you to assume that holding an exam would certainly spread corona when the no of appearing student would be far less than the total no of people queuing up outside the alcohol shops /or those travelling by trains now.






Why are you comparing this with spanish flu? It killed 17-50 million people. So we should not complain if Corona kills 10 million people now? Because what happened in the past, we should be ready to accept what is happening now?

And it is not presumptious to conclude that a large gathering could trigger transmission rates, it is logical. You wouldn't know the consequences of people gathering in front of alcohol shops or those travelling by trains until later. Watch how in two weeks time India reports a million infected and 3000 deaths daily. It will happen. A football match of 40000 gathering is said to be the powderkeg that kickstarted rapid transmissions in Lombardy, Italy and Valencia, Spain. Read up. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-soccer-match-that-kicked-off-italys-coronavirus-disaster-11585752012


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@K_9 lol...so you would appear for an exam and then crib  that i got sick due to appearing in it..
btw there was no vaccine of Spanish flu till 1940 . (22years and 2 world wars) people literally learnt to live with it.
good luck with your vaccine wait
 
btw it presumptuous of you to assume that holding an exam would certainly spread corona when the no of appearing student would be far less than the total no of people queuing up outside the alcohol shops /or those travelling by trains now.






And yes, ofcourse I would crib about it. I signed up for taking an exam. I did not sign up for getting infected due to government's callousness and potentially infecting my family members who are more at risk. Stop with the non sensical comments. 😂

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bhai mera to ye vichar h ki... jo corona ka hype tha wo khtm ho chuka h...…..govts ne josh josh me full lockdown kar to diya but ab jab logo ka patience khtm hone laga h to khud se hi open karne ka dikhawa kar rhe h...…..sabko smjh aa rha h....ki bimari jiska R-no. 1.25 h...and mortality b bahut low h..even common cold se kam.….iske liye itna sab drama karne ki jarurat nahi thi…….isiliye ab jab maximum cases aa rhe h to b govt lockdown khol rhi h dheere dheere…..trains b start ho rhi h....university exams ki dates b aa rhi h june me...….to upsc b kyo nahi karwayegi exam?? …..ha jo log services me h.....and jo is lockdown k liye ki wajah se disturb hue h....unke liye upsc jaurur sochega aur unhe thoda sa time dega….. 2 months ke around....to most probable exam aug k start me hona chahiye……...baaki jo log corona ka hype bana rhe h...bhai logo fuss ho chuka h corona ka gubbara……aankhe Kholo.....

Ye image aapke vichaar shayad badal de. Baaki jinko seriously nahi lena, unko to bhagwan bhi nahi rok paega. This is for USA btw.

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Let's play a game if people Interested. In a day dates will be out. We can put out a date as our guess and see who gets it right. Just for fun!
Here goes Mine-
9 August.

If its a game then my take is :. Scrapping of csat paper 2 and csat 1 will be conducted on two shift on single day in july

You do realize that format of upsc examination cannot be changed once notification for that year has come out?

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Ek cheez to clear hai UPSC aspirants ke relationship cum exam life me-"Date ke liye intezaar bahut karna padta hai."

Only UPSC aspirants are more anxious about notification dates than about romantic dates.

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Telegram pe 4th october ki hawa tez hai.
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K_9said

Telegram pe 4th october ki hawa tez hai.

Telegram was right apparently. 😅

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Basically it was safer to conduct the prelims on 31st May than it will be on 4th October. If UPSC has any moral compass that it tests every candidate on, it should accept the fact that these are unprecedented times and "calendar" is not the most important thing right now.
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This year passages required you to apply your knowledge on top of the given information in the passage. Which is sad because that is not what RC is about. Reading just the passage, interlinking of rivers cannot be concluded. Similarly , genome editing and anything about the transfer of genes from one plant of another cannot be said. Subsidies are not even being talked about in the passage related to gas based and renewable economy. You can't give wrong instructions by saying your answers should be based solely on the passages and then give such dubious options that require you to think beyond the passages.
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@rishi258  financial sector. 
'It depends on upsc interpretation, though i feel upsc 3only manega. '..yes its 3 only..😀

@Aurang_mirasudar yaha already non financial sector likha hua hai bhai. according to your article all correct hota but upsc k question me sirf non financial debt likha hai which can be both debt held by non financial sector OR debt taken from non financial sector. 
It depends on upsc interpretation, though i feel upsc 3only manega. 



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Bhai I think gas renewable ka D hoga. Even though the passage you shared says 

You have to bring renewables at the right time so you aren’t trying to bring them to market before they are actually ready,” Mr Carroll said. “In which case you are left with inefficient and costly subsidies for technologies that may be irrelevant in the near future.”


But this is just an instance that if renewables are employed early, it can lead to this. But the option in statement 1 says "Govts often provide inefficient and costly subsidies". There is no proof in the article that government is providing such subsidies "often" or rarely .


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@rishi258  financial sector. 
'It depends on upsc interpretation, though i feel upsc 3only manega. '..yes its 3 only..😀

@Aurang_mirasudar yaha already non financial sector likha hua hai bhai. according to your article all correct hota but upsc k question me sirf non financial debt likha hai which can be both debt held by non financial sector OR debt taken from non financial sector. 
It depends on upsc interpretation, though i feel upsc 3only manega. 



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Bhai I think gas renewable ka D hoga. Even though the passage you shared says 

You have to bring renewables at the right time so you aren’t trying to bring them to market before they are actually ready,” Mr Carroll said. “In which case you are left with inefficient and costly subsidies for technologies that may be irrelevant in the near future.”


But this is just an instance that if renewables are employed early, it can lead to this. But the option in statement 1 says "Govts often provide inefficient and costly subsidies". There is no proof in the article that government is providing such subsidies "often" or rarely .


Bhai aise written khojoge to kisi ke answers na milenge passage me. Bas itna likha h ki govt invested heavily on renewable energy but business houses wary of investing too much at a time when technology is not too ready. Note heavily word by govt 

Firstly, investment does not mean inefficient and costly subsidies. Secondly, that is a conjecture by the author that if renewables are taken up too early, it can lead to inefficient subsidies for technology that is not ready. But it doesn't mean government is actually today giving such inefficient and costly subsidies. And that too "often". Such extreme words are rarely correct when it comes to upsc.

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While everyone discussing cut off and person who is getting 120+...😁😁

Haha. I wish. 126-128 aa rahe in GS 1. But CSAT mei border pe hun. 65-72

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What are the answers for 

1. P >Q,R and S is not the largest question ?

2. R is S's Wife is the option correct or Should it be none of the above ?

3. Intersection of circle and square minimum and maximum points ?

Please some answer them, pura CSAT is dependent on these for me. There are different answers from different keys. Someone good at these please finalize ?

Opened this by mistake. Saw your question. 

Hope it will solve your query. 


About no. 3. I wrote None of the above. But then Shankar gave something else. So, I consider it wrong. 


Iske according C hai na PQRS waale ka? 

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What are the answers for 

1. P >Q,R and S is not the largest question ?

2. R is S's Wife is the option correct or Should it be none of the above ?

3. Intersection of circle and square minimum and maximum points ?

Please some answer them, pura CSAT is dependent on these for me. There are different answers from different keys. Someone good at these please finalize ?

Opened this by mistake. Saw your question. 

Hope it will solve your query. 


About no. 3. I wrote None of the above. But then Shankar gave something else. So, I consider it wrong. 


Iske according C hai na PQRS waale ka? 

Seems b now. Bhai ne solution bhi diya tha.  I marked D. Ab toh I think it's time to mark my answer wrong 

I was talking about the PQRS largest waala question not the relationship one. Confusion is between C and D. 

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When they are using P Q R and S as symbols for numbers ..it implies the numbers/symbols are distinct and not equal..hence it is C

extra brains/overthinking applied leads to Errors

kudos to certain answer keys 👍

@MarcusFenix @BKB 

Haan bhai. Mai to C hi Mark karke aaya hun. Log khamoka zyaada soch kar doosro ko dara rahe hain 😑 

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@Raja123 Aurang keys seems to be quite close to be infallible...however i personally feel that 85% agri answer is wrong..... Answer should be B..... someone pointed out that newspaper article talks about agri value chain... But its not mentioned in passage.... And we have to answer only according to things mentioned in passage only..... On the other hand high global agri prices are mentioned.....shankar and CL also gave answer B.. . Rest all the answers of Aurang are right and match with how UPSC thinks in passages


Haha. Then for genome editing answer would be B because the passage does not talk about transfer of genes from one plant to another or anything related to that. Also, then right to privacy answer would be D because the passage does not mention anything related to setting up digital institutions.


And agri answer is C 100% because the main theme was having a good price incentive. It can come from higher global agri commodity prices but it is not essential. If value added products related to horticulture and livestock are created, that price incentive holds. So 4 is definitely wrong. 2 and 3 is correct. Agar passage mei verbatim diya hai to it is right. Upsc will never waver.

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@K_9 lol how do you know genome editing is not B and Right to privacy is not D.....i can post many answer keys which have given these same answers...moreover you cant compare these ith AGRI wala que......in these que we have not ruled out something which is verbatim given in passage...how you want that in Agri question we should outrightly rule out what is given in passage (global agri prices) and blindly follow value chain which is nowhere mentioned in passage.....And how do you know UPSC will blindly follow newpaper article only......out of which it has copied only 5-6 lines ??


RC samjha karo yaar pehle. Then bola karo. It stated that high global agri commodity prices were responsible for fall of poverty in india. This was an example. If you can't link price scenario with value chains then kuch nahi ho sakta fir aapka. And what proof do I have that upsc blindly follows newspaper articles? Past years ka experience. It always blindly, unquestionably follows the article. Apna mann behlane ke liye 2 and 4 sahi maan lo waise.

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@K_9  I dont care even if my Agri que gets wrong...i am getting aroung 100...however you seem to be offended......may be your fate depends on this questions.....so i wish you will be right....All the best for Mains !!


Not at all offended. I just want logical consistency. Agar aap bol rahe ho right to privacy ka D aur genome editing ka B ho sakta hai, then I'd agree for agri waale ka B. Agar source articles ko follow kar rahe ho, then follow them for all. Pick one logic and stick to it.

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I think upsc will take context of passage which were in question paper only ...if the entire article is taken into consideration the sole purpose of comprehensive analysis will go away ... I don't know what I will score in csat but this year csat comprehension will totally make chaos .... UPSC prelims is something which is biggest hurdle now 

UPSC has already abandoned the concept behind RCs. Either they don't know how to frame questions or they are doing it on purpose. I got 99 percentile in my GRE verbal just in July. Answers to RCs in GRE have be based solely on the passage and nothing else. You can't assume anything. In upsc, this does not seem to be the case. It wants you to extrapolate and assume a lot of things not mentioned in RCs.

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Yeh cl csat key ne solid state management sewer ka A kyun diya.. Kis hisab se A hai eska... C is better koi option hi nahin lag raha 

Coaching waalo ka bas chale to 20 passages doubtful kar de

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Right answers.

Preamble A only

State minister A only

AI - no song,story and electricity transfer

Non financial- T bill option only

Money from demand deposit - A only

Banian- He is not agent of East India Company.



Puch nahin raha hun.. Bata raha hun..Baki apna apna dekho..mains perepare karo..jhagda na karo..

About as much chance of these being right as of an asteroid hitting the earth within the next month. Apni theories ko answers ke roop mei naa pesh karein.

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Inn coaching waalo ka koi deen imaan hi nahi hai. Jo answers humei exam mei bhi obvious lag rahe the aur jo doubtful bhi nahi hain unko bhi doubtful mei laa diya.Gandhi marx ka straightforward A hai answer.

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A friend of mine asked me a doubt regarding that AI question, I told him to visit this platform and get his doubts cleared. He blocked me on telegram, don't know why people do this even when you try to help them.

Soch ke aaya hoga ki AI waale question mei +2.66 ho jaenge. Forum ka discussion padh ke lagne laga hoga kahi -20 na ho jaayein. 

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Tokyosaid

Bhailog upsc csat k question ab visionias ki key baat final samjhe???

Final to kuch bhi nahi bhai. Vision did a blunder this year by venturing into csat and by joining the mudfest of RCs. Unhone koshish kari hai explanations provide karne ki. Because explanations bhi hai aur visionias reputed bhi, people are more inclined to take it as gospel. Trust it on math and logical reasoning questions. Not on RCs.

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BHAIYOO PADH LO MAINS KE LIYEE, MERAA INTERVIEW HAI NOV MEIN, AT UPSC HOUSE OF CAPF AC, I HAVE FINIHED POL SCI AND PUB AD. ALREDY, KAM SE KAM AAP LOG OPTIONAL KAR LOO.

@Harsh_capf_ac aajkal el optional hota hai bhai.. do nahin 😂

i did pub ad for ethics and governance gs 2 only, even i did history optional, and geo optional also. Sab me net ya jrf hu. 

Bhai aap pichle saal forum ke DKT prateet hote ho. History geo pub ad pol science sab optional kar liye aapne. Ye superhuman abilities ka raaz humse bhi share karein.

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Ye to pakka 1 and 3 hai. Isko bhi doubtful passage bana diya kya logo ne 🤣

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K_9said

Ye to pakka 1 and 3 hai. Isko bhi doubtful passage bana diya kya logo ne 🤣

Vajiram has also gave 1,2,3,4

Vajiram is clueless w.r.t RCs. Aise to bahug reputed answer keys ne sewage waale straightforward question ka bhi A diya hai when it is obviously C. It's hisaab se saare passages doubtful ho jaenge if we trust keys.@Aurang_mirasudar ki keys and source passages dekho. Agar 67+ ban rahe ho to mains padho. Har tom dick and harry ki csat key pe mat vishwaas karo.

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In the csat RC it is clearly written- answer it based upon the given passage. "The passage of 10 lines given in the question paper".not from the whole articles that you find from the original sources.

Upsc answers in both GS and CSAT have always been based on source passages and verbatims. Always. No exception. As a matter of rule. Whether one likes it or not.


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K_9said

In the csat RC it is clearly written- answer it based upon the given passage. "The passage of 10 lines given in the question paper".not from the whole articles that you find from the original sources.

Upsc answers in both GS and CSAT have always been based on source passages and verbatims. Always. No exception. As a matter of rule. Whether one likes it or not.


I think it's like this :

1. Criticial inference / message / summary of the passage can be arrived and the answers given are from the RC itself. 

2. Questions in which assumptions are asked might be taken up from the article 

If you see and try to get a pattern most of the coaching institutes have different keys with assumption questions and almost 12-13 answers are not debatable with 6 keys , they are clear and same. 

Coaching keys are most of the time wrong on assumption based RC, In such questions you can't look for RC and must look article. What's the point of asking for assumption if it's explicitly mentioned in RC itself . To substantiate further Check shankar's keys in 2018 and 19 . In 2018,nine of their RC's are wrong and 6 of them are assumption based ones only. 

Haan bhai. When did dispute any of this? Assumptions mei only upsc goes for the source articles. Mera bhi score source articles ke karan 80+ se 65-71 ke beech ho gaya. I would be happy if upsc doesn't look into the source articles but to my disappointment, it always has.

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Agar forum discussion ke basis pe GS ki answer key banayi jaye to upsc ki answer key ke 100 na aaye 😅
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@dev_kurmi12857  Bada confidence chahiye itna time devout karke bhi sure shot galat answers ko sahi batane mein. Biotechnology ka kabhi D ho hi nahi sakta. I've read the source epw ten times and there is no clarity on nature and necessity of public engagement or mention about wider political executives.

Secondly, gas renewables ke second part ka D hi hai. Costly and inefficient subsidies is only a possible consequence of bringing renewable technologies too early. There is no proof in the article that the governments are at present providing such inefficient subsidies and that too often. Too extreme statements are mostly wrong.

Rest seem fine.


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@Aurang_mirasudar may be true but not mine case  , I marked b in biotechnology and d in renewable energy , and saying other answer are correct , may be u will digest now , rest . Signing off


Kya shauk hai fir apne marks jabran negative karne ka? Both your answers are clearly right. When we refer to source articles, we look for verbatims and clear inferences. If something is very indirectly alluded to, then it is not counted. 

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K_9said

@Aurang_mirasudar may be true but not mine case  , I marked b in biotechnology and d in renewable energy , and saying other answer are correct , may be u will digest now , rest . Signing off


Kya shauk hai fir apne marks jabran negative karne ka? Both your answers are clearly right. When we refer to source articles, we look for verbatims and clear inferences. If something is very indirectly alluded to, then it is not counted. 

Clearly right, haha, apna sahi ho to clearly right, sahi hai

I mean Visionias shankar dono ne gas waale ka D diya hai. Aur biotech waale mei bhi confusion hai to kya hi bola jaye aapko. Inmei kya clear nahi hai jo seedhe answers hain?

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Rasilasaid

@prachimalik1121311  unable to post file.. for liberization answer. 1.A
2.B 
Answer based on 25 years of liberization by Deepak nayar. Direct statement uthayi h


Saalo purani news hai. EPW ka article hai. First part ka answer C hai aur second ka D. Change hone to gungaish zero hai. Mains padh lo ab yaha neta banne ki bajai.  👍

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Rasilasaid

@K_9 dono galat h tumgare, agar border par ho to start praying


Tumhara upsc mei ho jaaye with such terrible comprehension. Uske liye pray kar lo. Humari chinta mat karo. 😬

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Kya Today is d day??? 

No.

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in logon dhoond ke pitai karo..they arnt humans but worse than animals..these fakesters

Animals are good. These people are on par with Hitler.

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126-129 Gen. CSAT was on the border between 65 and 72. Selected for both forest service and civil service. 🙂
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