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[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

Don't you guys think the SOPs(see link below) by AIIMS experts  for neetwill be followed in UPSC too? Looks like the govt is determined to conduct NEET n JEE in Sept. Coz if they are conducted then UPSC will be too on the following lines. These SOPs are quite elaborate and with UPSC "gearing up for the interviews amidst the covid pandemic".  Any opinion on this? 
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/neet-sop-has-centres-doubling-to-4500-masks-bundled-with-paper-/articleshow/76967439.cms
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पढ़ लो, 2 महीने पहले भी यही बकर पेल रहे थे । 4 महीने का टाइम दे दिया अब भी वही बकर चल रही । UPSC ने सेंटर बदलवा दिए हैं, नए स्कूल भी खरीद लेगी सेंटर्स के लिए , हर सेंटर पर बच्चे भी कम लेगी, प्लास्टिक शीट्स भी लगवा देगी बेंचेज़ पर कवरिंग के लिए, invigilaters को PPE किट्स भी देदेगी और बच्चों को एक मास्क और face shield sanitiser किट भी दे देगी जरूरी हुआ तो - मगर एग्जाम अक्टूबर में ही होगा । 😎😎😎

श्रीमान, हम आपकी बात से सहमत है, लेकीन-

१. बेंचस पर प्लास्टिक शीट लगाने से क्या फायदा, अपनी तशरीफ तो व्यक्ति को उस पर तब भी रखनी होगी। 

२. यूपीएससी के सेंटर बदलने का जो विकल्प दिया था उससे तेज तो आईआरसीटीसी की वेबसाइट पर तत्काल टिकट बुक हो जाता है।

३. इस कोरोना महामारी के बीच तो मोदी जी, अमित शाह भी नहीं बता सकते कि परीक्षा हो पाएगी की नहीं। (हम सब उम्मीवार ४ अक्टूबर ही तह मान के चल रहे है)

४. बकर करने से उम्मीदवरों का मानसिक संतुलन बना रहता है और ऐसे प्रश्न मन्न में उठना कोई असमंजस की बात नहीं। सब अपना दुख सुख बाट रहे है यहां। 

नोट- मास्क तो सब उम्मीदवार खुद ही ले आएंगे, सेंटर पे मिले या ना मिले।

धन्यवाद, आपका दिन शुभ रहे।

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@Kira0705 That was only for the medical right. Could you plz describe the whole process of interview- all arrangements and precautions that were in place from entry to exit. 
And wasn't it  in the news that dopt has decided that candidates for interview can get medical done in states/uts. Maybe they knew that it would be tough for such arrangements in medical process as hospitals are  overloaded.

https://www.financialexpress.com/jobs/take-note-upsc-allows-candidates-to-take-medical-tests-in-their-states-uts/2024734/ 


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@Kira0705 Dont compare it with JEE/NEET those are exams for 17/18 year olds UPSC exams are for adults who are required to understand what is physical distancing and how to follow , with proper social distancing , centre change and safety measures exams will be conducted , if you are scared feel free to be absent on the day of exam (this is what dopt will say)
Ok thanks for the clarification. But iit neet students who are 17-18 are also mature enough to understand the situation. It doesn't need rocket science to understand this. That is why they took the issue to Twitter for July exams. Rest yes you are right pre may be conducted on 4th Oct.

I am pretty sure UPSC would make similar levels of preparations for pre as well and would conduct on 4th oct , some panel members are asking candidates to remove mask and speak so even they are not afraid now 
Yes mask they can provide.
Sanitizer- may be, maybe not
Air fare, train travel subsidize- Not for all definitely
Mask may be removed but still was at a comfortable distance from the members. They asked as they couldn't makeout properly or voice was muffled. 

Rest i would not be able to reply right now. Happy studying, as i said you are right it may be held on 4th oct. All the best. 

PS - some of us are in our penultimate attempt, age wise too. Though a minority. So cannot be just absent. It is literally do or die for some. 


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UP Pcs has added a new centre for mains- Ghaziabad bcoz of the ongoing pandemic. Apart from Lucknow n Prayagraj. Total 3 centres. 

Hmm if UP-PSC  is trying their best, i guess it is a sign. However anything can happen but still. And only 6k sit for UP mains. Thoughts?

4th October 💀

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Keep your parents and yourself safe. We managed to find a bed for my father with much difficulty. The hospital has only one ventilator which is already in use. I'm praying he won't need it. I've been sick for two days, i doubt if i will get a bed if i need one. No exam should happen.


Location : Guntur/Vijayawad in Andhra Pradesh. If anybody has contacts that can help me or my mother get a bed on the day we need it, please help. Thanks

I can't even imagine what you are going through. Stay strong friend. Everything will be okay. I wish you and your family members a speedy recovery.  Seeing all this around even I think no exams should happen. 

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@srk121srk25767 @FinalMission 
Check your DMs

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What the hell just happened in CET case. It was in favour of students. Now little hope for UGC case in SC. Situation is getting worse. However GoK is keen to conduct exams before JEE as the private colleges will secure admissions. Filling up their coffers.  And yes the judge was changed after the first sitting. May god help those students appearing for KCET. Bengaluru is the worst affected district in Karnataka right now. 
I still feel Pan india exam is really tough in the current situation. Though not in favour but still nothing should be done in a hurry. Apparently"live with covid"has been deciphered wrongly by the masses. They totally forgot a sizable section cannot live with covid. 
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I am not able to understand as to why is Karnataka government hell bent on conducting the examination? If majority of the students are opposing it, then the govt should,politically speaking,simply pay heed to it.

Or is it just a minority who want the exam to be postponed?

So that private colleges can secure admission and fill up their coffers before JEE and other national exams. Money once spent cannot be returned even if the candidate is selected for IIT and other colleges. 

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Will exam gets postponed?

this question has no answer. It is popping up in almost every aspirant's mind and not only UPSC, i mean all competitive exams aspirants- JEE NEET. If you go on quora there are a plethora of questions asking the same- 


" will jee postpone further  from September?" 
"will Neet be conducted in September?"


And aspirants are puzzled, even CLAT students are puzzled as their exams are next month. 


And there are 2 types of groups amongst these aspirants

1. Who want postponement 


2. Who do not want postponement (mainly so called droppersin jee neet terms)
and they are fighting and abusing each other like anything. 
However both the groups are right in their own sense (speaking about serious aspirants). 


So it's not only us UPSC aspirants who are going through this turmoil. These late teenagers (about 30  lakhs +) are facing the same stress. Same reasons FOR and Against that are being represented in this same thread. 


We are not alone, every student in the country is facing the same problem. Many have been affected by Covid like our brother@Phagocyte . Not only aspirants but their parents too. 
So coming back to the question- Yes jee and neet is not the same as UPSC but it can be a litmus test for other National exams. Will show the mood of the respective bodies- how well they think they can manage it. Cause acc to me SOPs good look on the paper, ground reality differs. And yes not to forget aboutNDA, in a week we will come to know. However nothing can be said with full confidence as of now. Till now UPSC has been performing well by keeping in mind the dangers involved- be it interview or postponed pre. 


At this crisis moment we can just keep our families and ourselves safe by not moving out unnecessarily. Covid is a curse for many. Keep your spirits high and meanwhile focus on 4th October.

Keep preparing and supporting each other.
 

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@Agog Haha brother/sister.I am inevitable.  Just like UPSC prelims. 


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Mockery of Social distancing in Karnataka cet

Just look at the comments on you tube for this video.


Seeing all this It has made me thinking now govt is adamant and stubborn on the issue for exams. By these recent events I don't think UPSC will postpone any further. May god help us now. Plus see UGC's reply...they are not even 0.5% in favour of postponement let alone cancellation, only relief is a future date for exams that too for those students who cannot appear till September.  (little hope for the case in SC today)

I wish whatever the govt and exam authorities decide be in the best interest of the candidates. Situation is getting worse and by progressive  unlocking everything I guess in September some parts of the country a small number of educational institutions might open though parents are opposing it.  

UPSC and other exam authorities should take all pros and cons in consideration and continue with the decision. All the best. I am not suggesting anything here, just wrote what I felt the present govt's stance is.  I may be completely wrong.

Since herd immunity is not an option as accepted by ICMR I don't know what are they going in for by conducting exams?!!

PS- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/herd-immunity-not-an-option-for-india-government/articleshow/77272909.cms

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@Tangent True they wanted to secure admissions before JEE is held. I hope same thing is not repeated at national level and judges realize the ground reality instead of what the govt has arranged (on papers). 


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I will add a small fact, Jee mains is held at more than 200 cities, Jee advance - 140 cities approx

Neet- around 155 cities

UPSC prelims- 72 


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@Homo Neanderthalensis but your answer/comment was to the point, proves facts are not necessary to be exact, except for some obvious ones needed in the exam. 


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@rafael only 6000 people take uppsc mains, that too one state


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UPPSC mains postponed to 22nd September 

@sympa  thank you for the info

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@Lbsnaa2021 Doesn't matter as long as you have an eligible degree and are fulfilling other conditions like age etc.  No one is going to ask about your attendance. Just go through upsc's notification first to clear your doubts. 


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Amit Shah - HM tested positive for Covid
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https://twitter.com/nidhiindiatv/status/1289730142483357696

just look at this KCET

SOPs 👏👏

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@rafael PPE kit bacha tha 😁


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@rafael kidding brother/sister


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Agogsaid

Xam hoga ya nahi ab koi batao Augut aa gya,pura August strict lockdown hai in Bihar and Maharashtra.1 month me by september end kya sab thik ho jaega considering non essential nature of xam?In dono state me abhi tak koi essential xams bhi nahi hue!!UPSC ko agar xam lena tha toh centre kyu nahi badhaye??

Kyunki

https://twitter.com/nidhiindiatv/status/1289730142483357696


kyunki centre badhane ke baad bhi yahi hoga 👆:Premature evacuation, sab chipak ke khade ho jao ab maza aa raha hai


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rafaelsaid

@rafael kidding brother/sister


not kidding..  face shield is a must . along with mask .we can only decrease the probability . covid has long term impact . Even if u clear u might nt perform to ur best in 3.5 months . People aftr months of recovery are complaining abt fatigue , joint pain , chest pain , brain fog .

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/brain-fog-heart-damage-covid-19-s-lingering-problems-alarm-scientists

Yes I completely agree, by kidding i meant for PPE kit, obv we are not going to wear ppe kit and sit 4 hrs for the exam. 

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https://twitter.com/nidhiindiatv/status/1289932748900069378


Ms Nidhi Taneja, journalist, who has raised several issues of students/aspirants in the past few months, has tweeted for UPSC aspirants. I believe more people should put forward the demand of an additional attempt by giving one time relaxation as a special case. Kindly tweet/retweet/dm her about the issues we are facing.

Yes but I guess may be many want only 1 compensatory attempt without skipping this year's attempt. 

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Congratulation to all those who cleared the exam. 👏👏
amidst all this one thing seems sure - 4th october, exam will take place. 

I mean i am not of any view but this result is like- i don't know making me nervous

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Note : The result of Civil Services Examination, 2019 is subject to changes, if any, that may be necessitated by the orders that may be passed by the Hon’ble Courts in matters pending before them.

I think this will have a minor effect.

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Exam on 4th October seems to be real possibility now. The way KCET has been held, it's very much possible that Upsc will be conducting examination on time with necessary precautions. 

Probably everything will play around the actualisation of Federalism. Any All-India Exam will require active coordination with States. Lets see how it pans out.

I don't know if the states can stop it, it won't be conducted only when there will be logistical issues. Given what happened in KCET. Also for jee less than a month remaining and not even a word by govt only that parents n students demanding postponement till situation is under control.Plus NDA too looks like a green signal.

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@Dead Man wow and Aditya thackrey was a petitioner in SC against UGC for final yr exams. 


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@Katy_Singh you will have to speculate


https://scroll.in/announcements/969377/parents-body-petitions-postponement-of-jee-main-and-neet-to-mhrd

they are saying if this doesn't work PIL in SC


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 This year, 68,000 candidates have registered for the entrance test for undergraduate admissions and around 9,000 for admission to the post-graduate programme

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Someone rightly pointed out abtTopper's storm  a few days before it started, got a notification. Let the games begin.

PS- had to tap 'see fewer notifications' 

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@Khamoshkrantikari @Chanakya 

Simply put - What would we be if we were attached to another object by an incline plane wrapped helically around an axis?

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Twitteratis have flooded with thisRahul Modi meme, this year he will dawn all other toppers interview. He will be the most famous one this year. And the most hilarious thing is rank 420.
Naam bhi kya kya kar deta ha.

*just on a lighter note, getting selected itself is an achievement- rest rank and all not in our hand.

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Guys she has been a Femina Miss India Finalist. What a talented girl she is. Year after year, UPSC has proved that it wants people from different backgrounds.Such a good change.

Bro kaha diff. background. She was studious throughout. As someone forwarded the link here.

98% in boards

SRCC (Sri Ram College of Commerce),  then science student

Got IIM Indore in 2018

Though yes cracking civils in itself is an achievement- I mean for all.

This she quoted "But it's not that I suddenly generated an interest in studies. I was always very studious. I was the head girl in my school. I was a science student and then I went to SRCC (Sri Ram College of Commerce), so my background was such. And ultimately I gravitated back to my studies," she tells us


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@Tejas14 yes seems so, but why do you think so? just want to know your views


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CLAT was such a small scale exam i mean popn wise- 60k to 70k,, that got postponed indefinitely. Strange
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@Tarkikyogi hmm still they did it. NEET JEE is on fire on twitter. IWPA is moving ahead to SC 


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@Albatroos1989 and what about those who have their last attempt and have reached age limit? Plus won't it reduce equality for those who are forced to drop and appear next year.  Time gone will never come back- let alone a precious year.


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@Albatroos1989 well even i can't drop, it will continue but 50K cases per day won't, this will surely fall. it is now stagnant around 50k cases, so at least we can say it will sometime in future. if this was the situation why CLAT got postponed even though 77k appear and CBSE and ISC got cancelled even after providing exam centre nearby. 
Khaer whatever is the situation both sides are correct, let the authorities decide. 

PS- you might have a job, some of last attempters do not have a job for years. 


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...... and compensatory attempt to be provided


Bhai ek dum Dil, Dimag, Kidney, Liver sabki baat boli. I 100% agree with you. Few stories are printed. The rest even don't care if their story becomes a story or gets out in the market. Good eg. adding to that, The model was also 1st time attempter and definitely a very good academic record though only the model thing is being so much highlighted in newspapers and social media by Senior Ias officers esply, similarly stands for others, and we never do any background check. We assume everything to the word they say. If we delve deeper there are some other supplementary stories to them. eg. in 1st attempt qualifiers we don't know how many years the person has put in, some start since 12th class or from college 2nd/3rd year. Some are academically brilliant-means studious throughout who have a lot of experience about competitive exams.  Some have better amenities or from a much better socio economic background.  Nonetheless from every aspect and circumstances people are selected as UPSC is unbiased. 

We assume everyone is either anundisputed championoran underdog.

and that guilt thing is to the point. Comparison is always the enemy. Thanks for clearing this up. Out of 100 stories we focus on only those 15 stories who wethinkare brilliant, just like prelims we tend to focus on those 15 questions which are teaser questions and we extrapolate the whole paper to it  and even for next year. 

Thanks buddy@rashivfor saying it out clearly. And don't believe what all stories are printed or said. Already qualified people can ascertain this fact. 

Keep preparing 


Edit: adding to that what if those role/ideal aspirants had to go through your circumstances. Means - all facilities, socio economic circumstance, family problems, past mentality, education background ,break ups etc. their results might have been different or at least not similar. Most of these stories are tweaked/modified for market success. 

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Who was the MVP who predicted about the Exam date being 4th october ?  We might need him again here :P :D

@kraantikaari was the mvp 

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@kraantikaari arre brother sir mat bolo. Thanks man. I didn't expect a reply. Do update whatever info you have. You are the MVP of this thread and I guess the only credible insider with 5 star rating. 


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@pizzza brother why???? stay here


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a gentle reminder:-  Please go through the link  (https://www.change.org/postponeUPSCprelims2020) and kindly sign the petition and share the link. You can also copy the matter and use in mails/tweets/official correspondence.

https://www.change.org/postponeUPSCprelims2020


already abt to reach 100

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@Interstellar05 just a milestone how fast it is spreading, after that in 1000s and then we can tweet to Nidhi India Tv.


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@Thanos_ postpone karwa ki hi manoge.....😂😂😂


Bhai mere hath mai kuch kaha. You also know what will happen will happen. 

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@sjl_mndl1369 It's not about preparation time, Mate. 
It's about travel hassles. 
There is still cases rising in Maharashtra. And I don't think by end of August it will go down. There still is District Lockdown (update me).  
Bus service is not yet resumed. 
Also, I doubt Boarding  & Lodging will start (Rather I'm afraid to stay) 

And my Centre is 150Km away. 

It's OK to say it, if you are living in same city as your Centre. But there must be many people me as well. 
But you are right, extra time won't improve your preparation for Civil Services. 

Hope everything works out. 


Yes I agree, I don't know why people are assuming that whoever is asking for postponement has a motive of extra time. True it won't change anything preparation wise. But there are genuine concerns about travelling and lodging. And the biggest factor is - if you contract covid, already the gap has been reduced to 3 months b/w pre and mains. imagine the loss that the candidate will suffer. This is not free and fair exams. 

There might be some malafide demands but maximum are genuinely concerned about family and their own health. And don't give suggestions like you can drop this year- what if they also have commitments and financial burdens, better than extending their preparation till June 2022, 

And i don't think they will merge any exams. Take a clue from state PCS, though they are late they conduct the exams separately for every year. they will fast track the prelims results and the mains. Still 2020 can be completed before july end 2021. 

And lastly if this is the stress you can't face in life, there will be much bigger challenges in any service and definitely in life; when you will look back this will look minuscule. So be it 4th October or November or December we should learn to cope up with the circumstances. Our condition is not worse than those poor migrants who had nothing. Sorry for the gyan but had to say. To sum it up be prepared for 4th oct and if it is postponed better than sulking make the best use of time and make sure you get a rank and are freed from this cycle.

Best wishes from my side

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@Naren752 EWS certificate can be obtained from District Collector's office. You will have to fulfill the conditions and show necessary papers. But you know since everything can be obtained either by hook or crook. Many and when I say many understand that it is a huge figure - non eligible EWS ppl have obtained EWS certificates. 


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/sc-refers-to-five-judge-bench-pleas-challenging-10-per-cent-ews-quota-in-jobs-education/articleshow/77376719.cms

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bahut se logon ne fake banaye hong hi ews certf. i dont think so itna minute level pe checking hoga ews ka selection ke baad 

Well ye toh nahi pata but post recruitment the cross checking process is a confidential one. It is done via the DM with the help of police machinery. A certain amount of risk is involved. Why take risk. Itni mehnat se aaoge and raddh kar denge selection...kya faayda?

They are well aware of the fact about faking for original certificates.

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If you think Caste goes away because you hold an influential position, you should also know that our President was denied entry at a temple only recently. I don't understand why people think untouchability goes away with wealth. 

Acc to this logic I say if one doesn't want to be discriminated further and are economically ok or near ok , simply apply from General category. Case closed. 

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Full movie available on forum ias 😂

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@Patootie My friend's father is an IFoS officer (retd.) They live peacefully within the society. They are SC. No one ever discriminated with them. All eat together, play together and pretty much everything else. Does my friend need reservation??? And sorry i don't want to continue further here as this is a very sensitive topic.  Reservation must be there definitely be there but for the deserving. 
After independence there are 2 classes within the reserved categories, the so called developed SC class takes the benefit and the real deserving SC doesn't get them. As someone pointed earlier so many"meenas"but no "manjhis

On the other hand, the house help's daughter who is also SC and the mother is the sole bread earner. Do you think her daughter will become an IAS. So much irony...that house help sits on the floor in front of them, have separate cups and utensils. height of hypocrisy. Discrimination kaha ho raha hai khud he dekh lo. And this is the story of most households. Exceptions are always there.

PS- the house help's daughter wants to become SDM. I can't even describe what their condition is.  Reservation won't help her, cause some developed SC will bag the place. Personally I have no grievance against any reservation policy except if you are adding communities to the list then Plz exclude the developed ones. 

Won't be replying on this topic for now.
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some doubts

a) Is aryan invasion still considered as probable reason for fall of IVC

b) will upsc ask questions like military exercises list ( i think they will be asked in bank exams)

c) are awards based questions asked in upsc (--do--)


a.) some historians do consider this

b.) They can ask, just a yorker question, in case, match the following may be

c.) yes Indira Gandhi Peace Prize was asked in 2015, ISRO was the answer for that year. 

Edit: was in 2015 prelims

Indira Gandhi Prize for Peace, Disarmament and Development for 2014 was given to which one of the following?

(a) Bhabha Atomic Research Centre
(b) Indian Institute of Science
(c) Indian Space Research Organization
(d) Tata Institute of Fundamental research


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Tomorrow in UP b.Ed. entrance  exam will be held. 4 lakh candidates across 24 cities. 

Green signal by state capital DM. 


and see this https://www.deccanherald.com/national/covid-19-not-to-wind-down-until-at-least-october-experts-870784.html

to quote the article "Dr Ganesan (Chair of IISc’s Department of Computational and Data Sciences), whose mathematical model which takes into consideration key parameters such social distancing and quarantine breaches to make its prediction, said the latest data shows that the pandemic peaking in late October under the best-case scenario. However, under the worst-case scenario, it peaks only at the end of December, he said."

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@Consistency Yes plus private colleges owned by many Politicians and local goons. Affliated to Lko University. LUTA- the lko univ teachers association protested against the exams, but still it is being held.


snap if you can-  Time stone is missing.  😁(time factor implicit here)

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Why do you say so? Appears routine to me.

@Thanos_  bhai, what made you think that '   daal mein kuch kaalaa hain'.   pls explain. We couldn't read anything btwm the lines. . conspiracy theories are very interesting.. the stage is all yours shrimaan Robert Langdon thanos.


Nothing much. I thought their preparation is on full swing. Saara karyakram chal rah hai wha

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Is this the total number of candidates who opted for in mains or the final selected people?
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ye nahi bach rahe itne SOPs ke baad toh hum log ka kya hoga


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@Tejas14 fir covid hone ke baad

खुदा जाने के मैं फ़िदा हूँ
खुदा जाने मैं मिट गया
खुदा जाने ये क्यूँ हुआ है
के बन गए हो तुम मेरे खुदा
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Bhai log toh dene ayenge he na berozgari itni h bharat me ...harr maa baap ko naukhri chahiye bache  ke liye ....... bhai lekin healthcare wese he overburden h aur aese sab karke ye log usko exaggerate kar rhe h

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/lucknow-worried-about-safety-many-aspirants-to-skip-up-bed-exam/articleshow/77440478.cms

nahi bhai, I had a word with some candidates personally. Many are skipping it. Just read this article. Had insider info- Adm. knew many would skip the exam. This is not a recruitment exam, a full fledged course. And there is rampant corruption in these exams.
 Obviously the poor ones who have no choice are the worst sufferers. 


Video link-  ">

The thumbnail is from Kerala, but the video is from today

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An appeal and an explantion:-

1) one of our forum members - @chanakya,  started an initiative to write a full length Prelims test per day and share the analysis atDaily Prelims test - ForumIAS. we request more participation . preferable timings 3-5 everyday. for more details visit the above link.

2) The postponement petition started two days ago(https://www.change.org/postponeUPSCprelims2020)  already received 3400+signatories. Please go through it and share it in your social media circles. Interestingly, I found two other petitions with similar reasons going on internet. It validates our point.  Some of the forum members are DM'ming me whether they can copy the content to use in emails,tweets, quora answers. Feel free to use the content in your mails addressed to various authorities and in your tweets. Also, don't forget to go through the reasons cited by the signatories.

//Happy Sunday. All the best. Happy revising.//

Link not working can u share again?thanks

https://www.change.org/postponeUPSCprelims2020

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@Samurai_jack Bhai agar ghar mandir hai toh reishtedar chappal chor hai. 
Inki toh chinta na karo. Relax and focus on your dream. Yaha poori fraternity tumhare sath hai. 


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Any updates on today's case on final year exams ?

Ya nothing happened. one more date. 14th august. We all know where this is going .

 Be prepared ab toh lag raha hai 2lakh/day bhi ho gaya these guys won't stop. SC muted some lawyers, and something like that. The youth is losing faith in judiciary. KCET was 2 hr break. UGC case is 2 week break.  


https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/ugc-guidelines-final-year-exams-will-disaster-management-act-have-overriding-effect-supreme-court

There is word to word complete coverage in this link. Didn't read. Achha case study banega mains ke liye. 

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Compensatory attempt. Hmm that is a very fair demand. But will anyone listen and pay heed?
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@Joeyisthebest or maybe for the last attempters. 


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@Handshake but they won't do it. They will say we already postponed for 4 months giving a fair chance. 


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@Tyler Durden Bhai by seeing SC giving tareek pe tareek for UGC, doesn't seem they will give in favour for postponement. I seriously hope they will consider all the facts. 


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CLAT now reschudeled for 7 September. All exams will happen on time now i think 

what will happen in 3 weeks? Maybe government is in a mood for massive unlocking from 1 september, UPSC obv knew all this. 

Now timeto bid adieu. Let's not live in a fool's paradise anymore. 

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@Tejas14 Get out of your prejudice. UP and Bihar are conducting some of the highest tests in a day with numbers scaling to 90k and 75k respectively.



Where? How? This from today TOI

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@RedDevilMUFC well India is world's 5th largest economy by nominalGDP. In absolute numbers we are 5th. Then is India the 5th richest country? But on per capita income basis we are 139th by nominal GDP. Rest you know what i am trying to say. 

So if UP n Bihar are testing higher. UP with 20crores + popn has the biggest challenge too. Same for Bihar. 

PS - Uk is at 6th place. So compare and contrast both the countries in all socio economic indicators


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kafi उम्दा response raha hai...

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/up-bed-entrance-exam-38-fresh-cases-in-agra-as-examinees-flout-covid-norms/articleshow/77456355.cms


jaate jaate chote vin diesel ke yaha ghanta zaroor baja ke jana :bell:

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@sulawesi ok plz check your inbox

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@Thanos_ just for creativity of "chote vindiesel" aapko 110 number 100 main


haha thanks brother but this was all over when he became the CM.  Inhi number ke aadhe mil jaye mains mai 😁

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The one who makes SOPs are getting infected even after their foolproof SOPs.

Agar ab bhi nahi samjhenge toh bhagwan/allaha he malik hai for toh.


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the comment is to the point


I do not mean to demean anyone but the situation has forced us to rethink about them


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yaar ye SC petition 1 additional attempt is for only those who can't appear?  should have been for everyone including last attempters irrespective of age caste etc. 
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@Interstellar05 ye baat bhi sahi hai, but ye alok sir abhi tak toh haar rahe hai cases. hope sabka vikas ho
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@TONYSTARK90011  yes, it looks like Exams are more imp than life. Whole cast of avengers is here

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Since that PIL has been filed.....i am 100% sure ab exam time pe hoga. That PIL will do nothing but exacerbate the process. Mr. Alok has been losing every case related to exams. His points are not even strong. 
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I am herein@wakanda 

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Okay this may not be of much use, but i got info from a high level employee of Indian Railways that trains not to be functional till 30 September at least, obv except those 200+ spl trains. 

Any info obv might change as govt may change the decision accordingly, but for now this is true. Wonder even if they run trains from 1oct, how will everyone ensure reservation in 2 days, general wala dibba not plying. 🤔🤔

Maybe upsc wants candidates to do "chaiya chaiya" on the roof of the train. Also will boost immunity.

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@Tyler Durden i have no idea how thw candidates will reach centres for NDA exam. Some were complaining that their home town is in Bihar & the centre was in Chandigarh. Maybe the spl trains ought to ferry them.


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@yummy see they are definitely doing a good job. I am not blaming for that. But for upsc civils many were not allotted centres. I personally know many ppl who couldn't change centres. 
I think you haven't seen the crowd in UP Bihar when upsc conducts exams. Many poor people sleep at railway stations, give the exam and go back the same day. And not only poor in economic sense, many lower middle class candidates do the same. Plus upsc didn't inc the no. Of districts unlike jee neet where centres were inc 5-10 times. Plus jee is in slots spread over many days. Neet also has 150 districts while upsc has 72. So those trains will not do a good job then on 3rd or 2nd oct. Many ppl complained how they had to travel during floods and covid without public transport for COMEDK And also those 200 trains is nothing compared to the 7000 regular passenger trains during pre covid times. If you count all there were 12000 odd trains. The hinterland is not covered. Major capital cities and primate cities are not a problem here like Delhi to some similar big town. 
Plus why do you think so many big shots and majority of students are in favour of postponing jee n neet if transport or situation is so normal.  Even youtubers & recently S. swamy, Manish Sisodia joined the bandwagon. 

But my friend these debates are now useless, trains or no trains upsc is on 4th oct. & Since our time is precious let's not escalate this into a debate further. You are free to comment. I must go now.



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@Bawra man well it doesn't matter now. There are 40 days, as i said earlier our exam is on 4th oct. So no point placing the facts that too we have no data for. It is hard to tell how many serious ones want postponement and how many don't. This is just a stereotype. Untill you don't qualify this exam ..  society ki nazro mai you are a non serious aspirant.

Padh lo bhai/bhen log....exam is coming. 


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Yes..... Exactly.... Exam is on 4th and preparing it well is the only option now

Cool brother....all the best for 4th n 8th!

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Yaar kuchh observation hai..aise hi time pass..(i dont comment much on threads though)..

1.anybody here on forum talking about postponement of prelims is being branded as non serious aspirant

2.A poll on telegram of supposedly “serious candidates“ wants the exam to be held on 4th oct.

With all due respect bhai log, postponing the exam is the right thing to do for now. The entire logic would converge to this. I am not talking about the political aspect of it, let the government take care of it. My entire concern is with regard to “ we the aspirants of upsc”. They are two:

1. By what logic do the supposedly “serious candidates” want prelims on 4th oct

2. why are those declared as “non serious” upon talking about exam postponement when by all logic it is the only sane thing to do.

Is it because “ exam hokr rahenge” has become the majority opinion so we are all aligning our own opinion accordingly? Shouldnt there be enough space for counter opinions esp when it is logical as well. At least for the sake of forum leave alone democracy 🤓🤓

100% agree. I don't understand -anyone who is talking about postponement is being branded as a non serious aspirant.

Some random poll on telegram doesn't justify the voice of aspirants. If we are going by this then around 15000 have signed for postponement on change.org

Even if i were to assume that telegram poll is ok. Then wht abt those 37% people?!! They want postponement, you can't just sideline those 37% . I think many are not familiar with the ground reality.




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Well let's see there is 1 more meeting of NTA on 25th aug.(not sure abt this) Let's see what they conclude this time. However NTA & Education ministry & our poet of modern India has given a formal statement that exams will be held.

Moreover there was some guy Nair i guess who uploaded the same notice (like it was just edited here n there) before NTA issued the formal statement abt exams being held on the given dates. This news made many rounds and also people questioned abt the Nexus b/w coaching mafias & NTA


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Kaha se kaha baat pahoch gai. Ek info di thi that trains band rahengi till 30 Sept. Aur haan obv with the quest. That how will ppl reach if trains won't ply . :unamused::disappointed:

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yummysaid


Hope the pandemic ends in two years, says WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus


Ya Right n this is how india will look in 2050 

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@Katy_Singh no, not unless you appeared in at least 1 of the papers.


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I seriously think that exam is gonna get postponed given all the prevailing circumstances


I think there might be a slight chance for jee neet but nda, civils will be held. However nda candidates have also started stating the same problems

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Did anyone give any mock with mask on? I did, it was really uncomfortable...2 hrs was a very long time, had to pull down the mask like everyone in the bazaar to breathe. Forget the fogging on spectacles, the mask becomes moist and starts smelling too and it doesn't help if you chew some mouth freshner. 

Man have to really get used to this. Or maybe they should arrange seating with a good enough distance.

Views are personal.

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@Itachi I haven't tried that yet, but if it is a very clear one maybe it will be better than a mask. 
Phew....the new normal of exams is a hassle.  
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@Katy_Singh haan it is, perhaps will have to take out the mask or slide it down during the exam, there is risk in it but also risky if mind doesn't  work without hassles. But what to do, the whole exam during this situation is risky. 


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Itachisaid

@Thanos_ is face shield more comfortable then?.....but will they allow us to use our own masks and protective gear??


you still have to wear mask though.

what  does nda SOPs say?


Oh yes, you still have to wear mask and carry a small transparent  bottle of sanitizer with you- 50-100ml

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Itachisaid

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irrespective of the SOP i personally think that the discretion lies with the supervisor in the exam hall.....just like they check the type of watch wore by aspirants to determine if the watch is digital or analog..... of course the two situations cannot be compared but i think you got my point....

True....but what an irony...we ourselves cannot follow SOPs, how is everyone so confident about the SOPs

During UP - PCS prelims in dec 2019 at my centre they weren't even allowing anyone a wrist watch. I had to convince them that analog watches are okay, only digital watches are not allowed. In the end they allowed. But yes you are right depends upon the centre, most are lenient.

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@Itachi not in upscn but in kcet n other exams, already happened. No one paid heed. 


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@MaxBlack try wearing simple surgical two fold mask while giving exam and n95 while commuting to center. SOPs don't explicitly mention that you have to wear n95 mask. 


Yes I tried with that only, problems faced i  have stated them.

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@MarcusA this discussion/debate will go in circles. Since past 2 months already we have had good enough points from For & Against it. I just shared the tweet to show how the voice of aspirants are being represented.
Why will anyone cancel, even the not so efficient state PSC's conduct respective exam cycles after a massive delay sans corona.
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Samjhe bachha log. "Successfully" 

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I think if in case jee neet is deferred, then too civils won't be as there is no mention of upsc in these protests. No one is talking about NDA & forget civils. That is toh not mentioned anywhere, hardly 5 days for jee, nothing will happen.

My personal view-These are all man made rules - academic calendar, sessions etc. They are not natural laws that cannot be tweaked acc to  exigencies  - like earth's rotation,  etc.

So point is the govt can do but will not do. They rule with an iron hand. ✋🔩

So whatever it is,Keep preparing for the scheduled date.



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Oh god up psc has released schedule - exam 22 sept to 26 sept. Just a week before prelims. They couldn't wait 7-10 days n schedule after October 4

Prelims se pehle he corona na ho jaye. 

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I agree with everyone's point.

This doesn't concern UPSC but since many here are giving UP mains....what the hell is UP govt thinking. 22-26 sept mains. just a week before prelims. Weekend lockdown -sat n sunday have been extended till 30th sept. No gatherings, social, religious etc. coz there is a surge in cases. But mains couldn't be held later. For exams they will open everything on weekends.  Even last year mains was in oct 2019. The testing in UP is limited to main cities barring a few.  What is the sense all of it don't know. The exam spans over 5 days with one day gap- don't know how will poor rural candidates manage this

But if JEE NEET n this UP govt conducting all exams like PCS mains, B.Ed.; the govt will definitely say that it is safe to conduct exams. They have lost it. 

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@vikkyanthro28607 I know that is what I am saying but bhai...my concern is, many appearing in UP pcs mains are going to give UPSC prelims & every year they keep this in mind and schedule the dates accordingly. Plus crowd is less 6k butonly 3 centres. Moreover if our point is covid for UPSC - transport & lodging, think abt the candidates who will have to stay for5 daysminus the travelling time. and as seen in the past months many from here- Forum are appearing for it. I mean the dates n covid is messing up here. Plus ye UP govt ki covid related taiyarri is sub standard. Don't know how will they manage for 4-5 days. 
BEd and all were 1 day exams like pre....even that BEO was 1 slot exam and around 24 cities.

and this is what i am saying,if these exams are being conducted govt will give these eg.s as an excuse for upsc.

Well whatever it is, we'll have to adjust. 

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To all who want the exam to happen when cases soar to 1Lakh+/day,

There are a couple of questions which are bothering me for a while, please help me find the answers. 

  1. Should a husband whose wife will be 5-9 months pregnant on the day of the exam travel 100-150KM and give the exam?
  2. What about a woman who is pregnant?

Note: Considering that this would be their last attempt.                                                       

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I hope these questions cross the minds of UPSC or Government or whoever decides the exam dates. 

Exactly. They have left the candidates to arrange that of their own. 

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@austinsteve this is what was given on irctc

There are Maximum Waiting List Limits in the PRS booking system for which Waitlisted Tickets can be issued after all confirmed tickets are exhausted. Your ticket booking request may get declined as the Maximum Waiting List Limit may be reached in the booking system by the time payment success response is received from your bank. In such case, your deducted amount will be refunded back, without any deductions, to your bank account in 3-5 working days. Inconvenience caused is regretted.



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Forget about traveling u won't even be allowed to enter station.

yes i inquired. You are not allowed to enter. You must have confirmed tickets, but i do not know abt RAC. General coaches obv not plying. 

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@Katy_Singh I am sure ye election year hota toh situation entirely different hoti


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100 ppl gathering? what was the criteria for this in unlock 4.0 Still for exams 200-400+ can assemble. 
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Just look at the hypocrisy.
SG told SC- we have made all the arrangements for the well being n health of the candidates....blah blah n whatever mr. pokhriyal said about 'trusting the authorities' 

Then they are already making the candidates sign the undertaking that if anything happens to them, the candidates would be solely responsible for it...

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@balwintejas ye FLTs kaun si nayi bimaari aayi market me??


Full length test unlike sectional- jo subject ya specific area focused hote hai

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A little off prelims - does anyone know any website, telegram channel etc. from where you can download Himanshu sir's 500+ notes or Shabbir's notes (latest) - handwritten & previous year toppers answer copy for geography optional. Will be really helpful. TIA 
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@RonWeasley does your mask has breathing valve ?


Breathing valve also doesn't help much though a little better. I think I will have to remove the mask or slide it down. No option, cannot risk prelims. 

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Rookiesaid

Read in the news that in case of JEE exams being conducted today, students have to discard their masks and wear the ones provided by authorities. 

Guess, Equality of Opportunity in action. :-)

yeah we'll hide chits or write on the mask. 

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@Rookie chits was sarcasm bhai


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accha wo sab chodo. Yeh bataao. Download karna hai kya ? Nahi kiya to shaayad yeh indication mile ki aspirants are in favor of postponement and phir se postpone ho jaaye ?

#pokhriyalogic

#kuchbhibc


bhai people are sending out mails to upsc- not to postpone upsc! - source telegram

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4000+ cases in Delhi yesterday, highest ever in last 2 months

Yeah, they increased the testing. Doubled it in Delhi.  We reached 1lakh cases a day approx yesterday. Hard times. And also 1k+ deaths have become a new norm.

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hello people I need some advice,

This is mylast attempt (penultimate)at UPSCand I have  UP(uttar pradesh) PSC  mains from22 to 26th Sept just 4 days left.(25th is off) I am very confused about it.

Should I skip it or not -the UP PSc mains 2019.Obviously I haven't studies for UP mains exclusively, studying only for prelims right now since this is my last. Means even if i were to appear for UP mains it would be for the sake of appearing right now. I have cleared UPSC prelims before. Friends and family are of the view that i should appear for UP mains as well. You all can relate how everyone says that it is UP mains, you will sail through and all that.

What advice would you give. I am nervous.

I know it will sound very stupid from a person who has this and only attempt in hand, but as i mentioned friends and family want me to give as I have now a guilt that if I leave the mains I would commit a blunder, but another question lingers what if I can't perform in prelims then all these years will go in vain. 

All views are welcome brothers and sisters. 

PS- anyone here appearing for UP mains?

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@Shubz @mehuifs @AzadHindFauz (and anyone not mentioned) thank you for the insights . All the best to everyone!

 This is the best forum I have come across in these years.

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I have cleared prelims 4 times so far and this is my last attempt.

But never I found myself mentally unprepared for prelims like this year. I really don't Know what I did so far. 

Corona + isolation from past 5 months especially during lockdown and unlock period 1 from march to beginning of July as I live alone(i ate processed food during these months to sustain myself) + no library + last attempt pressure totally messed me up.

In past five months I haven't gone out anywhere except to get milk or to get tea/sutta.

Imagine facing heat of last attempt and fear that if I get infected then everything will be ruined along with my attempt.

Yes, I have to blame myself for not able to fully cope up with the change but man there is seriously a limit to what someone can handle. SC did gave me hope but it added layer of confusion on already too much stressed mind that too just few days before exam.

If UPSC didn't notify about this relaxation before this year prelims then It will be big middle finger to all those people who have their last attempt this year. 


System and rules exist for human sake and not that humans exist because of system and rules.

Even our constitution comes up with amendment provision so that it can be modified as per time and circumstances but a recruitment exam can't be merged next year or postponed until situation becomes more healthy because we have some laid down rules to follow lol 

Making system and rules too rigid just defeat it's purpose.

Anyway, just taking out my frustration early morning lol 

Time to study 😑😑



Same here brother.

Moreover I don't understand if a person misses this attempt, her/his attempt won't be counted waise bhi (and can appear next year if the age limit is not breached), but many of us are having this compulsory last attempt due to age limit. So we have to appear- no choice."chahe 7 samundar bhi kyu na paar karna ho".There is confusion everywhere. Also there is no official statement by UPSC. So compulsory last attempters  do not have the choice to skip I think. Hardly 3 days left. Whatever decision will be taken I think will do justice to everyone.  

Don't know whether they will provide extra attempt to those who are appearing and have reached the age limit this year-? or only to those who are skipping. 

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@kochikaame That's very kind of you, Thankyou so much:)

See your name is all is well. The best and quickest way to keep calm (meditate is). Put your hand on your heart and say All is well. (3 idiots wala)

And that is true the heart is very afraid and it fools us. Just calm your heart and everything will be fine. Trust me on this.

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I think cut off should go down this year
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since many were asking about shankar ias cut off prediction 

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@Badluram Passage Talks about how Risk taking behavior of people connects to Money . Entire passage revolves around Not taking point Not taking is not good,So author suggests to take Risk of investment rather than idle and defensive attitude...So correct Option is B...


I don't know what the original article says. How can one assume/guess the verbatim. Out of an article if you give some lines it changes the meaning of the passage. Moreover they specifically mention it" Your answers to these items should be based on the passages only"  

in past also there have been variations in verbatim or not. Let's see what answers they give. However from this passage A seems if i go only on the passage and not on the article. Distribute your wealth


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@MarcusFenix hmm you too got D set


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@MarcusFenix oh okies....didn't see the page no. only the placement was exact in the same question


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If anyone wants to join Vision ias mains test series 2020 (any), contact me I can get it for 3K less. Msg me 
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Hello i got a lot of responses but no further communication. If anyone wants vision ias test series (distance only- no offline).

Full length tests 8 -MRP is ₹ 8k, can give it at 6k. And any test series above ₹10k can give it for 3k less. It will be of great help to me too. :raised_hands:

Msg me directly. If you have already msgd me, plz check your inbox.


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