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[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.


@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?

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jack_Sparrow,curious_kidand137 otherslike this
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Indeed .. Now i am feeling like a loser.. 


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This discussion about AI is sooo pointless at this moment. People are interpreting sentence differently and then justifying why their interpretation is correct and how others didn’t get it right. If you are confident about your answer then great, add 2.67 marks to whatever you have calculated. You don’t need to convince anyone else. That is your own marks. 

Aurora,GaryVeeand13 otherslike this
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Are you in market of AI or made college project. 

That's make difference. 
In market .. Nobody worries about .. what the frameworks have in those. They are just learning framework and creating AI applications. 
The definition of AI in terms of neural network is good for things. 
But , When you say .. what AI can do .. Indeed .. There are techs 

And .. The purpose of neural network us to replicate the human intelligence though in lesser degree.

Period.


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Vajirams explanation on t billls


 54.  In the  context  of  the  Indian economy,  non-financial  debt  includes  which  of  the  following? 1.  Housing loans  owed by  households. 2.  Amounts  outstanding  on credit  cards 3.  Treasury  bills Select  the  correct  answer  using  the  code given  below: (a)  1  only (b)  1 and  2 only (c)  3 only (d)  1,  2 and  3 Answer:  (d) Explanation: Therefore,  the correct  answer  is  (d). Explanation:Non-financial  debt  consists  of  credit  instruments  issued by  governmental  entities, households  and businesses  that  are not  included  in the financial  sector. It  shares  most  of  the same characteristics  with financial  debt,  except  the issuers  are non-financial.  It  includes industrial  or  commercial  loans,  T bills 



Issued by ka matlab toh bilkul alag hain ab. If it's issued by shankar is correct. If its not, vajiram is. 

gauravbrly409,
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Ek baat goh1 pakka saaf hain. Coaching centres bhi random googling karke sawal ka answer nikal rahe. Thus all this bina hat pair ka explanation.


And insights and few others have gone with that 6 months minister as 1 only. Isme bhi kuch drama hoga based on UPSC interpretation

Botanopu,MaeveWiley
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Does government do trading in Rice ? 

Why I am asking is because , gov. earlier has opt of peace clause of WTO , by which it assures WTO that there is no trade distortion. 

Or is above only related to external trade and not internal price discovery ?

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I have already answered that. 

Not possible at present level of AI... Even in future level of AI. Because ... The problem of wireless transfer of electrons at transmission level need some electric hardware devices ... and elctrical things. yaar itna to common sens laga lo.. Why stretching toooooo far. 

AI has nothing to do with it directly. 


Then in ur opinion if 5th statement is incorrect what should be the answer. 

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It's true. People attempt more questions these days thinking that net gain will be positive. And every option has 25% chance of being correct. If you eliminate 1 or 2 options, that probability even increases. And if you mark 1 answer correct by fluke also, it will make up for 3 incorrect answers marks-wise. People like this trade off. It's like gambling. From what I have seen, people who loose in this process are mostly the ones who attempt less.

Thats so true. I went with a predetermined mindset of attempting 40 sure shot questions in first round. I attempted as per the plan, hoping to reach 90 questions. But the sheer length of question paper made me attempt 78 in total whereas I wanted it to be 90 given the nature of question paper. But that never came for questions beyond question 88. I dont know if I would have gotten net correct in those remaining 8/12 unattended 2nd round ones. This exam is ruthless. UPSC sure didnt want people to go and write with a preset mindset. :( I regret not answering more in first round. 

PS: I havent even checked the answer key yet. Just googled everything and found 18 wrong. I wont even check answer key. What is the point? UPSC is what it is. These discussions about AI, non financial debt are pointless. :)

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Also , about Current Account deficit, haven't we become current account surplus country ? 


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/indias-current-account-surplus-rises-to-19-8-billion-in-june-quarter/videoshow/78404166.cms

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Kntsaid

@Tyler Durden Bina tukkebazike ipaper me 45-50 questions ke upar surety ke saathsolve karna mushkil tha, for a well prepared student. Uske baad calulated risk aur tukka hi tha. Aur agar cut off 95 ke upar jaata hai matlab tukka public jeet rahi hai.


It's true. People attempt more questions these days thinking that net gain will be positive. And every option has 25% chance of being correct. If you eliminate 1 or 2 options, that probability even increases. And if you mark 1 answer correct by fluke also, it will make up for 3 incorrect answers marks-wise. People like this trade off. It's like gambling. From what I have seen, people who loose in this process are mostly the ones who attempt less.

Thats so true. I went with a predetermined mindset of attempting 40 sure shot questions in first round. But the sheer length of question paper made me attempt 78 in total whereas I wanted it to be 90 given the nature of question paper. But that never came for questions beyond question 88. I dont know if I would have gotten net correct in those remaining 8/12 unattended 2nd round ones. This exam is ruthless. UPSC sure didnt want people to go and write with a preset mindset. :(

PS: I havent even checked the answer key yet. Just googled everything and found 18 wrong. I wont even check answer key. What is the point? UPSC is what it is. These discussions about AI, non financial debt are pointless. :)

pointless nahi hain , idhar se concept clear karke state psc mein lagayege na apan 😂😆

On a serious note, prelims since 2018 has become mostly about luck and a good day. Till 2017, we used to know like 50 52 questions ka answers and rest we depended on guessmastergiri.  By 2019, we used to know 35 40 questions la answers. Remainder guessmastergiri. Now from 2020, we will know 25 28 questions ka answers. Dheere dheere conservative attempt wale are being forced to do tukkebazi or exit the race. 


I have always told this. The exam is "actually an exam" from mains onwards. Prelims is just like that first buzzer round of KBC where people with most pathetic backstories win 😂😆🤣


The tragedy nowadays is that, people who were in 130s last year are struggling to make mere 100 this year. People who were in 70s last year have soared to 120+, which is egalitarian, true, but doesn't guarantee that the same 120 guy will not return a sub 90 score next year. 


Moral of the story - prelims is trash. 

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Is vertical farming really eco friendly? It requires huge energy for creating artificial light and temperature. 

Vertical farming is promoted beacuse it can be practised in densely populated area, but nevertheless it is high on energy requirement.

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Also , about Current Account deficit, haven't we become current account surplus country ? 


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/finance/indias-current-account-surplus-rises-to-19-8-billion-in-june-quarter/videoshow/78404166.cms

Bhai it has been discussed here already. If you read presently as annually you are safe. Else you have marked it wrong. Or that's what the consensus is as of now. 

Dalinar,
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@SantiCazorla Idk bro, somehow I do not want to watch that video now! 


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@rafael I like your perspective! :D


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I have been a silent observer on this platform for a few years. Cleared pre comfortably in 2018, missed by whisker in 19. hovering around predicted cutoff this time, lower end. sharing my experience of this pre:

Initial feeling of paper inside hall was that it was extremely tough. it had a huge shock value. POW! on your face kind.

After progressing and recovering from the shock, I did find several familiar topics. Huge relief. But alas, the joy was short lived! Even from so called 'easy/predicted' topics, tricky and confusing questions were asked. No straight forward answers! Even the easiest ones required elimination/cross checking. 

Then there were several questions which appeared inviting due to familiar nature of topic(mplads, elephant, cybercrime, biofuel, kisan card etc.), but their answers were hard to arrive at and they were time consuming. It only added to pressure and screwed the tempo, leading to sitters in polity and economy also going wrong, especially for poor souls with set C like me. 

So it was by no means an easy paper. Infact equal, if not more difficult than last year. Maybe not the topics, but the nature of framing questions and the overall lengthiness of this paper made it overall equally difficult. As for the cutoff, I feel it might remain the same, 98 or vary by a couple (96-100) but not more. Initial reactions of students are always exaggerated, on both ends. Scores are inflated. Plus coaching keys get several wrong. Accounting for those factors, 95+ by upsc key/ removing doubtful qs.  is a very good score in my humble opinion.

Every year there are set of prophets for the extremes- one set says "cutoff definitely approaching 110, everyone i know got 120+" , the other giving false satisfaction "toughest paper since last decade, cutoff will go below 90". Every. Damn. Year. Truth always lies in between I feel.

Surprisingly though, a lot of reliable people are pegging the cutoff below 95. Seems unlikely but not impossible. Maybe the low cutoff of last year clouding their judgement? Cant say. Would need to wait for the large coaching houses like shankar to survey their students, give a reasonable picture of a realistic cutoff.






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@Challenger_Deep  I just remembered having listened to AI composed classical music on YouTube months back, but somehow I couldn't remember it during the exams. There must be a strong correlation between stress and ability to recall from memory. 


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For the trade/current account deficit question, even if one considers quarterly data, the merchandise exports of India is lesser than merchandise imports. So, statement 1 is correct. Statement 3 is definitely correct. Hence only logical answer is D. "The merchandise trade deficit shrunk to just $10 billion in Q1FY21" - News article in Business standard.

With reference to the international trade of India at present, which of the following statement is/are correct?
1.India’s merchandise exports are less than its merchandise imports.
2. India’s imports of iron and steel chemicals, fertilisers and machinery have decreased in recent years.
3.India’s exports of services are more than its imports of services.
4. India suffers from an overall trade/current account deficit.
Select the correct answer using the code given below:
a) 1 and 2 only
b) 2 and 4 only
c) 3 only
d) 1, 3 and 4 only

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Is forumias key reliable? I am getting 110 from forum and 90 from CivilsDaily. A variation of 20 marks !!
Oasis,
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Guys after checking from toppers key, I am getting 115.85 . I applied for forest service. Is there any minute chance of clearing the cutoff. Feeling panicky
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