Civil Services Mains 2020 Results: In or Out ? Way ahead, gratitude and Pain
The Civils Mains result has been declared. This thread is for sharing your grief , joy , mixed feelings - absolutely anything and everything.
Any inputs on World history how to do it ?? Sources ??? And any extras also ??@AzadHindFauz @whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @peterparker @nerdfighter @sjerngal @DHARNA @Patootie any other also welcome ???
Arjun Dev Old NCERT+ Selected chapters from the new one. :)
AzadHindFauz,AzadHindFauz,
Any inputs on World history how to do it ?? Sources ??? And any extras also ??@AzadHindFauz @whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @peterparker @nerdfighter @sjerngal @DHARNA @Patootie any other also welcome ???
I referred to Vision IAS Material on World History.. I feel that's good enough, seeing the low cost benefit ratio of the subject.
@AzadHindFauz @whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @peterparker @nerdfighter @sjerngal @DHARNA @Patootie Please tell what sources did you follow for post independence history as syllabus is vague and question was asked only once in 2013.
I skipped it this year. This year too, no questions were asked.. Another low cost benefit area.
Any coaching material will suffice. I referred to Vision's material.
HeNeArKr,I skipped it this year. This year too, no questions were asked.. Another low cost benefit area.
Any coaching material will suffice. I referred to Vision's material.
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peterparker,@AzadHindFauz @whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @peterparker @nerdfighter @sjerngal @DHARNA @Patootie Please tell what sources did you follow for post independence history as syllabus is vague and question was asked only once in 2013.
Hi, I couldn’t make it to mains last year ( CSAT was the culprit I feel ). Therefore I am not in any capacity to suggest you what can work. However as a fellow aspirant I can only share what I have heard from others. So what my friend ( who wrote mains this year) advised me is not to kill time in reading NCERTs and references for it but rather look at PYQs and do certain reverse engineering by going through questions asked in different test series. But along with that I am planning to read that 30 pages VAM of vision ias as well. ( FOMO XD)
EiChan,HeNeArKrI see the conversational hand-grenade worked out really well here.
Only advice would to develop a strong gut to see, specifically identify, and engage with the worst of ideas - howsoever nauseating they might be. Administration involves much more of Social Persuasion (is that a GS 4 topic? hmm) of very inflexible people than one may imagine, so consider this net practice.
/preach
Conversation Pivot - has anyone scored above 85 in GS 3 in 2019 here? Or 95+ in GS 1, GS 2?
Or a respectable score in any year before 2019? What were your learnings from it?
GS2. 97. Not a very good score though. But was not expecting a good score anyway.
Polity section went okay. PSIR optional plus Dipin sir CA notes helped. But was unable to understand (and hence I assume that I must have been unable to address) some questions completely.
Governance section felt completely new. Was underprepared specially in fringe areas like RPA. Had only basic content internalized like what is social audit, CC, etc. My sources largely contained Dipin Sir's CA classes handouts and Vision material on GS-2 governance.
IR one question felt that if revised could have done better. 3 were answered with ease.
Learnings* -
1. Basic understanding if displayed fetches some marks. In case one does not have either time or capacity to hit the bulls eye in a question demanding on the spot comprehension and background information; better to use relevant static knowledge. Especially since quite a number of analytical questions are seen in GS-2 now.
2. Structure - Governance questions were largely answered unconventionally. No 10/15 points for 10/15 markers. Answered them in paras. Took case study of Swach bharat to answer the question on development partnership. Filled 1 page with this - that's what my level of helplessness was at that time :D
3. Benefit of having prepared material became evident to me as I fumbled on simple questions like on the topic of e-governance.
4. Originality and understanding is appreciated. I tried to reverse-evaluate myself. I reach 97 only when questions on IR are allotted 60% marks. So, my sense is that, examiners usually don't breach 50% limit while giving marks, that's why even successful people who have mastered the art of answering almost all questions equally well get 100-125 marks. So, perhaps, in exceptional cases they are willing to give extra 1 or 1.5 marks.
5. Relevant basic argument >out-of-place value added material.
* -liable to change as and when score of 2020 is out ;)
@AzadHindFauz @whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @peterparker @nerdfighter @sjerngal @DHARNA @Patootie Please tell what sources did you follow for post independence history as syllabus is vague and question was asked only once in 2013.
Politics in India since Independence.
HeNeArKr,
What do you think ?
Was any such pattern visible in CSM 2018 marking
Would love some inputs on this
I see the conversational hand-grenade worked out really well here.
Only advice would to develop a strong gut to see, specifically identify, and engage with the worst of ideas - howsoever nauseating they might be. Administration involves much more of Social Persuasion (is that a GS 4 topic? hmm) of very inflexible people than one may imagine, so consider this net practice.
/preach
Conversation Pivot - has anyone scored above 85 in GS 3 in 2019 here? Or 95+ in GS 1, GS 2?
Or a respectable score in any year before 2019? What were your learnings from it?
GS2. 97. Not a very good score though. But was not expecting a good score anyway.
Polity section went okay. PSIR optional plus Dipin sir CA notes helped. But was unable to understand (and hence I assume that I must have been unable to address) some questions completely.
Governance section felt completely new. Was underprepared specially in fringe areas like RPA. Had only basic content internalized like what is social audit, CC, etc. My sources largely contained Dipin Sir's CA classes handouts and Vision material on GS-2 governance.
IR one question felt that if revised could have done better. 3 were answered with ease.
Learnings* -
1. Basic understanding if displayed fetches some marks. In case one does not have either time or capacity to hit the bulls eye in a question demanding on the spot comprehension and background information; better to use relevant static knowledge. Especially since quite a number of analytical questions are seen in GS-2 now.
2. Structure - Governance questions were largely answered unconventionally. No 10/15 points for 10/15 markers. Answered them in paras. Took case study of Swach bharat to answer the question on development partnership. Filled 1 page with this - that's what my level of helplessness was at that time :D
3. Notes and the benefit of prepared material became evident to me as I fumbled on simple questions like on the topic of e-governance.
4. Originality and understanding is appreciated. I tried to reverse-evaluate myself. I reach 97 only when questions on IR are allotted 60% marks. So, my sense is that, examiners usually don't breach 50% limit while giving marks, that's why even successful people who have mastered the art of answering almost all questions equally well get 100-125 marks. So, perhaps, in exceptional cases they are willing to give extra 1 or 1.5 marks.
5. Relevant basic argument >out-of-place value added material.
* -liable to change as and when score of 2020 is out ;)
I think 97 is a good score, atleast for me. Thank you for your insights!
Inselberg,@Inselberg As far as i have observed, out of the four GS papers, they seem to inflate one of the papers marks every year(maybe awarding 70% at max for questions where as you said they tend to stick to the 50% yardstick) and deflate one of the other papers marks.Like in 2017, GS3 had high scores while GS4 was marked very conservativelyWhile in 2019, GS4 seems to have been awarded high scores and GS3 conservativelyWhat do you think ?
Was any such pattern visible in CSM 2018 marking
Would love some inputs on this
I also think they do something similar. Let's see what the roulette holds for us this time.
@AzadHindFauz @whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @peterparker @nerdfighter @sjerngal @DHARNA @Patootie Please tell what sources did you follow for post independence history as syllabus is vague and question was asked only once in 2013.
I did these-
- Politics in India since Independence
- Kunal Aggarwal's short notes
EiChan,babu_bisleri
@AzadHindFauz @whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @peterparker @nerdfighter @sjerngal @DHARNA @Patootie Please tell what sources did you follow for post independence history as syllabus is vague and question was asked only once in 2013.
The best source of Post Independence History remains Politics Since Independence. It is brilliant.
I am no knight. Do not call me Sir|Philosophy behind ForumIAS
@AzadHindFauz @whatonly @SergioRamos @Villanelle @peterparker @nerdfighter @sjerngal @DHARNA @Patootie Please tell what sources did you follow for post independence history as syllabus is vague and question was asked only once in 2013.The best source of Post Independence History remains Politics Since Independence. It is brilliant.
By which I mean the NCERT book. Want a long form of that. Refer to Sriram Post Independence/ Its the longer version of the NCERT book.
I am no knight. Do not call me Sir|Philosophy behind ForumIAS
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