Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?
So Mains 2021 has begun. Essay Paper is here
1. https://blog.forumias.com/upsc-ias-mains-2021-essay-question-paper/
2. GS Paper 1 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-1-question-paper
3. GS Paper 2 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-2-question-paper
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Hey guys! People who have given mains before, what do you think about these analysis by vision ias? I have watched them before but I hadn’t written mains last year.. so I liked their in depth Solutions etc.
but this time it’s giving me anxiety…. I know obviously they didn’t prepare the answers in 3 hours, exam situation but … can anyone tell me roughly.. what % of content/answers should match with their analysis to feel content (to whatever extent possible) ? I hope you all understand what I’m trying to say/ask..
When watching these videos, I try to focus on a) whether I've understood the core demand of the question b) whether I've structured my answer properly and c) what subjects/areas am I weak in. Doing this will help me in figuring out what to improve subsequently.
As far as possible, I've tried to ignore the content. At times however, the teacher might say something which I hadn't thought of (maybe a different style of presentation, or a particular way of value addition). I'll make a note of those things.
Thread kaafi shaant sa ho gya hai. I hope everyone is fine from any post-exam covid symptoms.
By the way, how are you guys spending time??
@SergioRamos@LetsGetThisBread@HeNeArKr@peterparker@sjerngal@D503@Villanelle@KingSlayer23College classes chal rhe h mere toh. I have no real break tbh 😅
I wish I had college classes :(
Already saturated from rest. I think I need fixing 😂
Yeah I feel you
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Villanelle,
@Duryodhan The similarity between Tendulkar, kohli and kl is they are fantastic as batsman but utterly incompetent as captain. Infact i very strongly feel it was wrong to naturally bring kohli as captain after dhoni when rohit as a senior player was there. Atleast some testing must have been done. This mr virat "captain by chance" kohli and his alcohol loving friend shastri have ruined India's records in international cricket no doubt as seen from this leadership's failure in bagging any championship success at international level. Infact like shastri,kohli must also be given some rest, he is " surplus" in a team filled with real talent.India has actually come a long way under Kohli, especially in tests. Even in white ball cricket the team has done extremely well. Not winning a trophy sucks obviously but that can't be your only criteria to judge someone's tenure.
Test Series Wins in Australia and England are not lesser achievements
Aus won border gavaskar trophy 2004-5 in india. They never over-celebrated it. In fact , when we discuss aus of that era ,i doubt if that series is even mentioned.
I know Gabba was an incredible achievement but shouldn't remain our only achievement.
KingSlayer23,well he built the team in his own image and I feel there is a lack of natural leadership after him. I’m not sure KL Rahul will be that indispensable player himself who will be the long term leader. Like when Dhoni was getting old we all could see the natural leader emerging in Virat…now there is a massive vacuum. I think we as Indian fans should expect a period of slump before things fully settle
"natural leader" my foot. Infact india is suffering from natural leadership deficit since dhoni because kohli himself is as incompetent a captain as a man can be, and even worse as a leader. when will you come out of this GREAT KOHLIAN ILLUSIONARY SPHERE mate. The records in international championship are in front of you. This BHAKTI in cricket has to stop.
Well I’ll just agree to disagree with you because despite lack of icc trophies, Virat leaves as India’s best test captain. He instilled an aggressive attitude in the team, demanded more from everyone and had a pretty solid overseas record. So I can’t choose to ignore that in my opinion.
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@Duryodhan The similarity between Tendulkar, kohli and kl is they are fantastic as batsman but utterly incompetent as captain. Infact i very strongly feel it was wrong to naturally bring kohli as captain after dhoni when rohit as a senior player was there. Atleast some testing must have been done. This mr virat "captain by chance" kohli and his alcohol loving friend shastri have ruined India's records in international cricket no doubt as seen from this leadership's failure in bagging any championship success at international level. Infact like shastri,kohli must also be given some rest, he is " surplus" in a team filled with real talent.India has actually come a long way under Kohli, especially in tests. Even in white ball cricket the team has done extremely well. Not winning a trophy sucks obviously but that can't be your only criteria to judge someone's tenure.
Test Series Wins in Australia and England are not lesser achievements
Absolutely
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@Duryodhan The similarity between Tendulkar, kohli and kl is they are fantastic as batsman but utterly incompetent as captain. Infact i very strongly feel it was wrong to naturally bring kohli as captain after dhoni when rohit as a senior player was there. Atleast some testing must have been done. This mr virat "captain by chance" kohli and his alcohol loving friend shastri have ruined India's records in international cricket no doubt as seen from this leadership's failure in bagging any championship success at international level. Infact like shastri,kohli must also be given some rest, he is " surplus" in a team filled with real talent.India has actually come a long way under Kohli, especially in tests. Even in white ball cricket the team has done extremely well. Not winning a trophy sucks obviously but that can't be your only criteria to judge someone's tenure.
Test Series Wins in Australia and England are not lesser achievements
Aus won border gavaskar trophy 2004-5 in india. They never over-celebrated it. In fact , when we discuss aus of that era ,i doubt if that series is even mentioned.
I know Gabba was an incredible achievement but shouldn't remain our only achievement.
Australia then was winning almost everything. So it was different for them ofcourse.
But even for us, its not just Gabba anymore. India won at Lords and Oval and Centurion as well. All of this in one single year is an incredible achievement.
KingSlayer23,Yeah, he may be the best test captain. But he was blessed to have world class pacers never seen before in Indian cricket. Kohli lacks real time game awareness (I think so) which is present in Dhoni and Rohit also.well he built the team in his own image and I feel there is a lack of natural leadership after him. I’m not sure KL Rahul will be that indispensable player himself who will be the long term leader. Like when Dhoni was getting old we all could see the natural leader emerging in Virat…now there is a massive vacuum. I think we as Indian fans should expect a period of slump before things fully settle
"natural leader" my foot. Infact india is suffering from natural leadership deficit since dhoni because kohli himself is as incompetent a captain as a man can be, and even worse as a leader. when will you come out of this GREAT KOHLIAN ILLUSIONARY SPHERE mate. The records in international championship are in front of you. This BHAKTI in cricket has to stop.
Well I’ll just agree to disagree with you because despite lack of icc trophies, Virat leaves as India’s best test captain. He instilled an aggressive attitude in the team, demanded more from everyone and had a pretty solid overseas record. So I can’t choose to ignore that in my opinion.
KingSlayer23,iphoole
Shinchen_makingUsigh,@Duryodhan The similarity between Tendulkar, kohli and kl is they are fantastic as batsman but utterly incompetent as captain. Infact i very strongly feel it was wrong to naturally bring kohli as captain after dhoni when rohit as a senior player was there. Atleast some testing must have been done. This mr virat "captain by chance" kohli and his alcohol loving friend shastri have ruined India's records in international cricket no doubt as seen from this leadership's failure in bagging any championship success at international level. Infact like shastri,kohli must also be given some rest, he is " surplus" in a team filled with real talent.India has actually come a long way under Kohli, especially in tests. Even in white ball cricket the team has done extremely well. Not winning a trophy sucks obviously but that can't be your only criteria to judge someone's tenure.
Test Series Wins in Australia and England are not lesser achievements
Aus won border gavaskar trophy 2004-5 in india. They never over-celebrated it. In fact , when we discuss aus of that era ,i doubt if that series is even mentioned.
I know Gabba was an incredible achievement but shouldn't remain our only achievement.
Australia then was winning almost everything. So it was different for them ofcourse.
But even for us, its not just Gabba anymore. India won at Lords and Oval and Centurion as well. All of this in one single year is an incredible achievement.
Bhai yhi toh point h mera . World k top class fielders,bowlers n batters hone k baad bhi achievement k naam p 4-5 tests h .
Itni acchi team kisi captain ko nhi mili thi. Dhoni bechara toh Umesh Yadav n Varun Aaron k leke duniya ghum aata tha 😂😂.
Kohli ko aise players mil jate toh wo toh beech match m hi gussa hoke khelna band kar deta
brownianMotion,iphooleSome People are saying that winning bilateral series is nothing in comparison to winning a trophy..
In the same breath some people compare this with upsc and say that scoring good in mocks is not good if you dont clear prelims..
Here is where the argument is flawed..
In our own UPSC journey we see veterans giving their sweat and blood to clear this exams.. some reach the semifinals(mains), some reach the finals(interview)... and we often see people not getting their name even once in the list..
And just like that their 6 attempts are over..
It does not mean that these candidates did not give their best or were arrogant or didnt deserve..
Sometimes it is just not meant to be..
I believe we Indians as a society are so fixated with WINNING that we never ever appreciate the process.. Today, we will curse Kohli for not making India win a single championship, but in this process we miss out so many things..
I really really feel sorry for people who think that Kohli has not let younger talents come up and flourish... Siraj is one of the biggest examples.. Two years ago you might have laughed at that guy, but today you realize his importance in the bowling unit...
A wise man once said, captaincy is not just about winning or losing a championship.. it is beyond what happens in the field for those 20/50/90 odd overs.... it is what you bring to the table in the dressing room.. in the nets.. and even beyond that..
Every captain had something or the other to contribute to Indian cricket team.. And I believe Kohli has played a decent enough part...
@Duryodhan The similarity between Tendulkar, kohli and kl is they are fantastic as batsman but utterly incompetent as captain. Infact i very strongly feel it was wrong to naturally bring kohli as captain after dhoni when rohit as a senior player was there. Atleast some testing must have been done. This mr virat "captain by chance" kohli and his alcohol loving friend shastri have ruined India's records in international cricket no doubt as seen from this leadership's failure in bagging any championship success at international level. Infact like shastri,kohli must also be given some rest, he is " surplus" in a team filled with real talent.India has actually come a long way under Kohli, especially in tests. Even in white ball cricket the team has done extremely well. Not winning a trophy sucks obviously but that can't be your only criteria to judge someone's tenure.
Test Series Wins in Australia and England are not lesser achievements
Aus won border gavaskar trophy 2004-5 in india. They never over-celebrated it. In fact , when we discuss aus of that era ,i doubt if that series is even mentioned.
I know Gabba was an incredible achievement but shouldn't remain our only achievement.
Australia then was winning almost everything. So it was different for them ofcourse.
But even for us, its not just Gabba anymore. India won at Lords and Oval and Centurion as well. All of this in one single year is an incredible achievement.
Bhai yhi toh point h mera . World k top class fielders,bowlers n batters hone k baad bhi achievement k naam p 4-5 tests h .
Itni acchi team kisi captain ko nhi mili thi. Dhoni bechara toh Umesh Yadav n Varun Aaron k leke duniya ghum aata tha 😂😂.
Kohli ko aise players mil jate toh wo toh beech match m hi gussa hoke khelna band kar deta
Bhai agar Dhoni ke pass Umesh and Aaron the to bechara Virat bhi to Rahane and Pujara ke sath tour kar raha hai
Some People are saying that winning bilateral series is nothing in comparison to winning a trophy..
In the same breath some people compare this with upsc and say that scoring good in mocks is not good if you dont clear prelims..
Here is where the argument is flawed..
In our own UPSC journey we see veterans giving their sweat and blood to clear this exams.. some reach the semifinals(mains), some reach the finals(interview)... and we often see people not getting their name even once in the list..
And just like that their 6 attempts are over..
It does not mean that these candidates did not give their best or were arrogant or didnt deserve..
Sometimes it is just not meant to be..
I believe we Indians as a society are so fixated with WINNING that we never ever appreciate the process.. Today, we will curse Kohli for not making India win a single championship, but in this process we miss out so many things..
I really really feel sorry for people who think that Kohli has not let younger talents come up and flourish... Siraj is one of the biggest examples.. Two years ago you might have laughed at that guy, but today you realize his importance in the bowling unit...
A wise man once said, captaincy is not just about winning or losing a championship.. it is beyond what happens in the field for those 20/50/90 odd overs.... it is what you bring to the table in the dressing room.. in the nets.. and even beyond that..
Every captain had something or the other to contribute to Indian cricket team.. And I believe Kohli has played a decent enough part...
Yr accha bhala cricket ka discussion chal rha tha upsc ko beech m laake saara mood kharab kr dia.
Ab m horror hi dekhta hu.
@Duryodhan The similarity between Tendulkar, kohli and kl is they are fantastic as batsman but utterly incompetent as captain. Infact i very strongly feel it was wrong to naturally bring kohli as captain after dhoni when rohit as a senior player was there. Atleast some testing must have been done. This mr virat "captain by chance" kohli and his alcohol loving friend shastri have ruined India's records in international cricket no doubt as seen from this leadership's failure in bagging any championship success at international level. Infact like shastri,kohli must also be given some rest, he is " surplus" in a team filled with real talent.India has actually come a long way under Kohli, especially in tests. Even in white ball cricket the team has done extremely well. Not winning a trophy sucks obviously but that can't be your only criteria to judge someone's tenure.
Test Series Wins in Australia and England are not lesser achievements
Aus won border gavaskar trophy 2004-5 in india. They never over-celebrated it. In fact , when we discuss aus of that era ,i doubt if that series is even mentioned.
I know Gabba was an incredible achievement but shouldn't remain our only achievement.
Australia then was winning almost everything. So it was different for them ofcourse.
But even for us, its not just Gabba anymore. India won at Lords and Oval and Centurion as well. All of this in one single year is an incredible achievement.
Bhai yhi toh point h mera . World k top class fielders,bowlers n batters hone k baad bhi achievement k naam p 4-5 tests h .
Itni acchi team kisi captain ko nhi mili thi. Dhoni bechara toh Umesh Yadav n Varun Aaron k leke duniya ghum aata tha 😂😂.
Kohli ko aise players mil jate toh wo toh beech match m hi gussa hoke khelna band kar deta
Bhai agar Dhoni ke pass Umesh and Aaron the to bechara Virat bhi to Rahane and Pujara ke sath tour kar raha hai
Flawed argument. Acc to kohli , rahane n pujji toh team k most imp players m se ek h.
Yadav n Aaron majboori the. Ye bhi nhi hote toh fir bas dhoni ko aana pdta bowling krne
brownianMotion,
Is there anyone here who can tell me how reliable are mains test series marks (Vision etc). I missed prelims in 2021 by a narrow margin but the discussions here are scaring me of mains? How much we can be assured about an interview call atleast if we score well in tests?@SnowLeopard @AureliusM
plmokn25688524,
Some People are saying that winning bilateral series is nothing in comparison to winning a trophy..
In the same breath some people compare this with upsc and say that scoring good in mocks is not good if you dont clear prelims..
Here is where the argument is flawed..
In our own UPSC journey we see veterans giving their sweat and blood to clear this exams.. some reach the semifinals(mains), some reach the finals(interview)... and we often see people not getting their name even once in the list..
And just like that their 6 attempts are over..
It does not mean that these candidates did not give their best or were arrogant or didnt deserve..
Sometimes it is just not meant to be..
I believe we Indians as a society are so fixated with WINNING that we never ever appreciate the process.. Today, we will curse Kohli for not making India win a single championship, but in this process we miss out so many things..
I really really feel sorry for people who think that Kohli has not let younger talents come up and flourish... Siraj is one of the biggest examples.. Two years ago you might have laughed at that guy, but today you realize his importance in the bowling unit...
A wise man once said, captaincy is not just about winning or losing a championship.. it is beyond what happens in the field for those 20/50/90 odd overs.... it is what you bring to the table in the dressing room.. in the nets.. and even beyond that..
Every captain had something or the other to contribute to Indian cricket team.. And I believe Kohli has played a decent enough part...
Spot on. Also you know when we see that legendary analysts and veterans of the game have admired the positive aggression brought in by Virat, I feel there is no point in paying heed to the keyboard warriors who will slate him for lack of icc trophies. I mean by that logic one would even slate down a legend like MAK Pataudi which would be just absurd. A captain or a leader’s role goes far beyond winning silverware.
sjerngal,
Is there anyone here who can tell me how reliable are mains test series marks (Vision etc). I missed prelims in 2021 by a narrow margin but the discussions here are scaring me of mains? How much we can be assured about an interview call atleast if we score well in tests?@SnowLeopard @AureliusM
For mains if u r getting above 90 in three hours attempt then pretty good chance of reaching upto interview stage. (Vision test series)
iphoole,
Some People are saying that winning bilateral series is nothing in comparison to winning a trophy..
In the same breath some people compare this with upsc and say that scoring good in mocks is not good if you dont clear prelims..
Here is where the argument is flawed..
In our own UPSC journey we see veterans giving their sweat and blood to clear this exams.. some reach the semifinals(mains), some reach the finals(interview)... and we often see people not getting their name even once in the list..
And just like that their 6 attempts are over..
It does not mean that these candidates did not give their best or were arrogant or didnt deserve..
Sometimes it is just not meant to be..
I believe we Indians as a society are so fixated with WINNING that we never ever appreciate the process.. Today, we will curse Kohli for not making India win a single championship, but in this process we miss out so many things..
I really really feel sorry for people who think that Kohli has not let younger talents come up and flourish... Siraj is one of the biggest examples.. Two years ago you might have laughed at that guy, but today you realize his importance in the bowling unit...
A wise man once said, captaincy is not just about winning or losing a championship.. it is beyond what happens in the field for those 20/50/90 odd overs.... it is what you bring to the table in the dressing room.. in the nets.. and even beyond that..
Every captain had something or the other to contribute to Indian cricket team.. And I believe Kohli has played a decent enough part...
But do you think Siraj would have flourished had he not been in RCB :p
I am not a big fan of his captaincy but at the same time, I am not denying his achievements. But believe me when I say winning ICC trophies requires inspirational leadership which he was unable to provide. Just look at the way he abused youngsters like Ishaan kishan and suryakumar yadav in IPL games you will understand what I am saying. Aggression is good but there are other ways to show aggression. Kohli certainly had a better team with him than Dhoni. Proof- even Ajinkya Rahane was able to win the test series for India in Australia.
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