Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?
So Mains 2021 has begun. Essay Paper is here
1. https://blog.forumias.com/upsc-ias-mains-2021-essay-question-paper/
2. GS Paper 1 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-1-question-paper
3. GS Paper 2 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-2-question-paper
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How was your paper? How did you approach the paper?
The forum is so quiet ...
Atleast no nonsense utterances take place here as on tele group... utterly low level texts are posted there.. I don't feel like opening tele now...
Experts may please shed some light on expected mains cut off this year.. how did you find as compared to 2019/2020 paper...
I'm not expert but another helpless aspirant. I strongly feel the reduction in cutoff in 2020 was antithetical to level of difficulty w.r.t. 2019. In other words, 2019 papers were tougher in aggregate than 2020, but what would have made a difference is the marking related instructions to the evaluators.
My understanding of papers is
1. essay :- difficult than 2020 ( it's not just abstract, the quality of abstraction also increased unnaturally)
2.gs 1 easier than 2020
3. gs2 easier than 2020 if we look at quality of questions and depth of demand of questions of 2020, deeper than Mariana trench ( not even joking)
4. gs3 2020 was a child's play, elite school students of 9th class would get those questions as summer assignment. 2021 was hopelessly difficult. "exact who guidelines" in terms of hard statistics, blue led, gdp metrics, technical statistics of that air defence system,and specifics of "glasgow gamble" were "soul shattering". So no match (atleast from my perspective and from perspective of common sense)
5. gs 4 - pretty much same 13 questions were easy but that is balanced by unique demands in case studies, where course of action was usually not asked but mere analysis of options available in 5 pages posed some challenge.
6. language - language to sabka ho jata he
7. optional- apna apna dekh lo, mere psir ke to asaan aae the is baar
overall i hate to say this, but 2021 seemed to be easier as conpared to 2020, just like 2020 was easier as compared to 2019.
but we have seen from falling cutoff from 2019 to 2020 despite falling difficulty level , that aggregate complexity of papers is not the decider. the decider is the "instructions" given to evaluators regarding marking. that is the talisman. therefore it's not much use speculating cutoff since that talisman is beyond us all.
Jajantaram Mamantaram
Tk17,Has anyone of you improved more than 100 marks in mains?
Do you know any toppers who were able to do this without skipping an attempt..?
Scoring 100+ in GS is not so easy..
It sounds easy but needs a lot of hard work to reach 3 digit figures...
can totally relate. missed interview call by 6 marks because of gs papers in 2020 ruined them all despite godly performance in essay and above average performance in optional. never trust gs, they are bewafa papers. essay and optional are marriage material, trust them give them time and efforts and they will be by your side even in tough times. hoping to atleast experience interview this time, can't say anything beyond that because not convinced about gs this time again :(
Jajantaram Mamantaram
Tk17,As a first timer, it's so much more difficult for me to evaluate my performance in the mains because I have absolutely no benchmark to evaluate my performance.
At this point I would be equally surprised if I do/don't find my name in the mains qualifying list.
I just have absolutely no idea what to expect and trying my absolute best to not get overwhelmed by the expectation anxiety 😛
Ps. Way too many 'absolutely' in this comment
Tk17,captainhaddock
The forum is so quiet ...
Atleast no nonsense utterances take place here as on tele group... utterly low level texts are posted there.. I don't feel like opening tele now...
Experts may please shed some light on expected mains cut off this year.. how did you find as compared to 2019/2020 paper...
I'm not expert but another helpless aspirant. I strongly feel the reduction in cutoff in 2020 was antithetical to level of difficulty w.r.t. 2019. In other words, 2019 papers were tougher in aggregate than 2020, but what would have made a difference is the marking related instructions to the evaluators.
My understanding of papers is
1. essay :- difficult than 2020 ( it's not just abstract, the quality of abstraction also increased unnaturally)
2.gs 1 easier than 2020
3. gs2 easier than 2020 if we look at quality of questions and depth of demand of questions of 2020, deeper than Mariana trench ( not even joking)
4. gs3 2020 was a child's play, elite school students of 9th class would get those questions as summer assignment. 2021 was hopelessly difficult. "exact who guidelines" in terms of hard statistics, blue led, gdp metrics, technical statistics of that air defence system,and specifics of "glasgow gamble" were "soul shattering". So no match (atleast from my perspective and from perspective of common sense)
5. gs 4 - pretty much same 13 questions were easy but that is balanced by unique demands in case studies, where course of action was usually not asked but mere analysis of options available in 5 pages posed some challenge.
6. language - language to sabka ho jata he
7. optional- apna apna dekh lo, mere psir ke to asaan aae the is baar
overall i hate to say this, but 2021 seemed to be easier as conpared to 2020, just like 2020 was easier as compared to 2019.
but we have seen from falling cutoff from 2019 to 2020 despite falling difficulty level , that aggregate complexity of papers is not the decider. the decider is the "instructions" given to evaluators regarding marking. that is the talisman. therefore it's not much use speculating cutoff since that talisman is beyond us all.
Speculating cut off of a subjective paper is meaningless, as you will have to speculate on the marking pattern as well, unlike an objective exam like prelims. So it becomes speculation on speculation😅
The forum is so quiet ...
Atleast no nonsense utterances take place here as on tele group... utterly low level texts are posted there.. I don't feel like opening tele now...
Experts may please shed some light on expected mains cut off this year.. how did you find as compared to 2019/2020 paper...
I'm not expert but another helpless aspirant. I strongly feel the reduction in cutoff in 2020 was antithetical to level of difficulty w.r.t. 2019. In other words, 2019 papers were tougher in aggregate than 2020, but what would have made a difference is the marking related instructions to the evaluators.
My understanding of papers is
1. essay :- difficult than 2020 ( it's not just abstract, the quality of abstraction also increased unnaturally)
2.gs 1 easier than 2020
3. gs2 easier than 2020 if we look at quality of questions and depth of demand of questions of 2020, deeper than Mariana trench ( not even joking)
4. gs3 2020 was a child's play, elite school students of 9th class would get those questions as summer assignment. 2021 was hopelessly difficult. "exact who guidelines" in terms of hard statistics, blue led, gdp metrics, technical statistics of that air defence system,and specifics of "glasgow gamble" were "soul shattering". So no match (atleast from my perspective and from perspective of common sense)
5. gs 4 - pretty much same 13 questions were easy but that is balanced by unique demands in case studies, where course of action was usually not asked but mere analysis of options available in 5 pages posed some challenge.
6. language - language to sabka ho jata he
7. optional- apna apna dekh lo, mere psir ke to asaan aae the is baar
overall i hate to say this, but 2021 seemed to be easier as conpared to 2020, just like 2020 was easier as compared to 2019.
but we have seen from falling cutoff from 2019 to 2020 despite falling difficulty level , that aggregate complexity of papers is not the decider. the decider is the "instructions" given to evaluators regarding marking. that is the talisman. therefore it's not much use speculating cutoff since that talisman is beyond us all.
I believe that inflated marking in gs 4 in 2019 resulted in higher cut off...
Average score of recommended candidates was 135+.. in 2020 gs 4 average score around 100 .. so huge difference in a single paper..
Let's hope how it goes this year...
masteroptimist,The forum is so quiet ...
Atleast no nonsense utterances take place here as on tele group... utterly low level texts are posted there.. I don't feel like opening tele now...
Experts may please shed some light on expected mains cut off this year.. how did you find as compared to 2019/2020 paper...
I'm not expert but another helpless aspirant. I strongly feel the reduction in cutoff in 2020 was antithetical to level of difficulty w.r.t. 2019. In other words, 2019 papers were tougher in aggregate than 2020, but what would have made a difference is the marking related instructions to the evaluators.
My understanding of papers is
1. essay :- difficult than 2020 ( it's not just abstract, the quality of abstraction also increased unnaturally)
2.gs 1 easier than 2020
3. gs2 easier than 2020 if we look at quality of questions and depth of demand of questions of 2020, deeper than Mariana trench ( not even joking)
4. gs3 2020 was a child's play, elite school students of 9th class would get those questions as summer assignment. 2021 was hopelessly difficult. "exact who guidelines" in terms of hard statistics, blue led, gdp metrics, technical statistics of that air defence system,and specifics of "glasgow gamble" were "soul shattering". So no match (atleast from my perspective and from perspective of common sense)
5. gs 4 - pretty much same 13 questions were easy but that is balanced by unique demands in case studies, where course of action was usually not asked but mere analysis of options available in 5 pages posed some challenge.
6. language - language to sabka ho jata he
7. optional- apna apna dekh lo, mere psir ke to asaan aae the is baar
overall i hate to say this, but 2021 seemed to be easier as conpared to 2020, just like 2020 was easier as compared to 2019.
but we have seen from falling cutoff from 2019 to 2020 despite falling difficulty level , that aggregate complexity of papers is not the decider. the decider is the "instructions" given to evaluators regarding marking. that is the talisman. therefore it's not much use speculating cutoff since that talisman is beyond us all.
Speculating cut off of a subjective paper is meaningless, as you will have to speculate on the marking pattern as well, unlike an objective exam like prelims. So it becomes speculation on speculation😅
Bro.. the cut off prediction is done assuming marking will be done as last year...
If any paper is checked strictly or marked liberally.. then cut off may rise or fall in the same proportion.. as all aspirants almost gain/lose similar marks...
Forumite,masteroptimist» show previous quotesBro.. the cut off prediction is done assuming marking will be done as last year...
If any paper is checked strictly or marked liberally.. then cut off may rise or fall in the same proportion.. as all aspirants almost gain/lose similar marks...
Let's say you're able to predict the cut off, how will you be able to predict your own marks? Again it's double speculation. Let's say you predict 750 as cut off and then predict your own marks as 760. Does that mean anything? 😆 And unlike prelims, no one else can help you in this regard too. Because no one else will be able to tell how you've written the paper (it's subjective, my dear Watson). I think you should Google about Dunning Kruger effect (if you don't know already).
If you felt good after the exam go for interview prep, full throttle; if you feel so and so, do prelims + interview; if you felt absolutely hopeless, go for prelims full on. Simple as that.
sjerngal,
@captainhaddock i dont think repeaters can guage themselves and their performace either
I disagree with you, repeaters have luxury of experience and meticulous evaluation of their experience alongwith the knowledge of their marks in each subject facilitates performance gauging
Jajantaram Mamantaram
Tk17,iphooleThe forum is so quiet ...
Atleast no nonsense utterances take place here as on tele group... utterly low level texts are posted there.. I don't feel like opening tele now...
Experts may please shed some light on expected mains cut off this year.. how did you find as compared to 2019/2020 paper...
I'm not expert but another helpless aspirant. I strongly feel the reduction in cutoff in 2020 was antithetical to level of difficulty w.r.t. 2019. In other words, 2019 papers were tougher in aggregate than 2020, but what would have made a difference is the marking related instructions to the evaluators.
My understanding of papers is
1. essay :- difficult than 2020 ( it's not just abstract, the quality of abstraction also increased unnaturally)
2.gs 1 easier than 2020
3. gs2 easier than 2020 if we look at quality of questions and depth of demand of questions of 2020, deeper than Mariana trench ( not even joking)
4. gs3 2020 was a child's play, elite school students of 9th class would get those questions as summer assignment. 2021 was hopelessly difficult. "exact who guidelines" in terms of hard statistics, blue led, gdp metrics, technical statistics of that air defence system,and specifics of "glasgow gamble" were "soul shattering". So no match (atleast from my perspective and from perspective of common sense)
5. gs 4 - pretty much same 13 questions were easy but that is balanced by unique demands in case studies, where course of action was usually not asked but mere analysis of options available in 5 pages posed some challenge.
6. language - language to sabka ho jata he
7. optional- apna apna dekh lo, mere psir ke to asaan aae the is baar
overall i hate to say this, but 2021 seemed to be easier as conpared to 2020, just like 2020 was easier as compared to 2019.
but we have seen from falling cutoff from 2019 to 2020 despite falling difficulty level , that aggregate complexity of papers is not the decider. the decider is the "instructions" given to evaluators regarding marking. that is the talisman. therefore it's not much use speculating cutoff since that talisman is beyond us all.
Speculating cut off of a subjective paper is meaningless, as you will have to speculate on the marking pattern as well, unlike an objective exam like prelims. So it becomes speculation on speculation😅
Bro.. the cut off prediction is done assuming marking will be done as last year...
If any paper is checked strictly or marked liberally.. then cut off may rise or fall in the same proportion.. as all aspirants almost gain/lose similar marks...
Since you are experienced, I'd like to ask something. If marking is done liberally like in ethics 2019, would attempting all questions not put the aspirant at greater advantage in such situations than attempting one or two less but rest ones with precision and depth.
Jajantaram Mamantaram
sjerngal,captainhaddock
masteroptimist,Tk17,masteroptimist@masteroptimist people who write mains first time, even they cn evaluate themsleves then.papers across years are as it is not comparable nor is the marking pattern. the only thig then anyone (first time or repeater) can do his match his mock performance and his final performance.
completely agree, apologies for making mistake, gratitude for correction
Jajantaram Mamantaram
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