Anyone else have Dholpur House as their centre?We were told on both days that people tested positive for covid and couldn’t give the paper.One wasn’t allowed in on the essay day, at least 1 positive case yesterday (didn’t give rest of the papers) and 1 today in our hall.Across the 3 days several people coughing, no social distancing, not even proper masking up.Don’t want to complain but UPSC in their press release said that people with symptoms would be seated separately, nothing of that sort.Hopefully the centre doesn’t become a hotspot :/
Talk of social distancing in exam hall and a separate room is all scam.
2 people sitting on one small bench is the norm. In one room, there were 60+ students sitting.
True that. Reminded me of this memeUPSC CSE akela ek aisa Exam hai jiske khatam hone par naa insaan khush ho paata hai aur naa hi dukhi rather kuch feel karne layak hi nahi bachta...NUMB ho jaata hai insaan like literally (Dahina haath kaam naa karr raha kayde se aaj) and symbolically bhi....baaki jitna bhi kahlo ki 15 days exam ka nahi sochenge lekin yeh sab bas kahne sunne mein accha lagta hai, practical nahi hai...
Main toh kehta hoon wo meme waala game phir se shuru karo plz. Thoda light feel hoga.
Good that you are not able to open it.Link expired aa rha. Am I banned ya sach me kaam nhi kr rha link
Thread kaafi shaant sa ho gya hai. I hope everyone is fine from any post-exam covid symptoms.
By the way, how are you guys spending time??
@SergioRamos@LetsGetThisBread@HeNeArKr@peterparker@sjerngal@D503@Villanelle@KingSlayer23
Lol. Same.Thread kaafi shaant sa ho gya hai. I hope everyone is fine from any post-exam covid symptoms.
By the way, how are you guys spending time??
@SergioRamos@LetsGetThisBread@HeNeArKr@peterparker@sjerngal@D503@Villanelle@KingSlayer23Also watched a complete ODI game after ages and guess what…we didn’t even win 🥲
Keeps collapsing
Bhai Vijay Shankar "3-D Player" is one of the biggest scams of Indian cricket. Avg speed in bowling, zero hitting capability.Bumrah , shreyas Iyer .
For now, Rohit could lead for some time,as kumble did in 2008.
Also ,i don't feel Kohli was a natural leader. He was a top batsman ( not sure if he is now ), but not a good leader.
Kohli was never a better tactician but a leader who showed intensity to win. As a captain he suffered from short term memory loss because he changed and chopped the 11 every now and then. Never backed a player. Preferring Shankar over Rayudu. Then no signs of KulCha after 2019 WC. Ignored Bhuvi in tests.
Even in tests we don’t have settled opening pair.
In the recent past I think atleast 6-7 combinations have been tried.
Yeah, he may be the best test captain. But he was blessed to have world class pacers never seen before in Indian cricket. Kohli lacks real time game awareness (I think so) which is present in Dhoni and Rohit also.well he built the team in his own image and I feel there is a lack of natural leadership after him. I’m not sure KL Rahul will be that indispensable player himself who will be the long term leader. Like when Dhoni was getting old we all could see the natural leader emerging in Virat…now there is a massive vacuum. I think we as Indian fans should expect a period of slump before things fully settle
"natural leader" my foot. Infact india is suffering from natural leadership deficit since dhoni because kohli himself is as incompetent a captain as a man can be, and even worse as a leader. when will you come out of this GREAT KOHLIAN ILLUSIONARY SPHERE mate. The records in international championship are in front of you. This BHAKTI in cricket has to stop.
Well I’ll just agree to disagree with you because despite lack of icc trophies, Virat leaves as India’s best test captain. He instilled an aggressive attitude in the team, demanded more from everyone and had a pretty solid overseas record. So I can’t choose to ignore that in my opinion.
"There is a reason why Indians have high hopes in government sector jobs, because it has stability, despite salary being low and working condition not upto the mark"
I beg to differ from this. The reason why Indians (most) are obsessed with government job is because it is a quick and cheap way to make money. You go to a 'Peshkar' in court, he will ask you money to put a date. An Official selling stamp of Rs 50 will charge you Rs 100 in name of 'Chai Paani'. You want to clear some dues in 'treasury office', you will have to do it by greasing the wheel. This is the truth of government service where for getting a single signature of an official, one has to take care of associates.
@AureliusMRegarding social security net, I do agree to some extent. However, Private sector also has a good social security net. The informal economy is where we are big time lacking this. And about cut throat environment, it depends on work culture of company to company. The thing is the current system in government service is not upto the mark. And, if by paying more money or due to privatisation, one can get optimum service, many will want that. People who cant afford those, there comes the duty of government to make the service affordable without compromising the quality.
@KratosOfPUBGBhai, I have seen you making personal comments. Please put your thoughts by respecting others opinion. All of us here have 'common sense' and yes, we don't use 'socio-economic' everytime. :)
Good point of people applying for teacher where extra income is almost 'nil'.The argument of cheap and quick money does not hold ground. Lakhs of students apply for post of teacher where extra source of income is almost nil. (Those who r not headmaster)
The main reason is higher pay for lower skill atleast at lower levels. For instance a driver in open market can get maximum12 k to 15k. But in public sector it may go upto 35 to 40k with many additional benefits.
People have suffered enough from hands of babus. So, they themselves want to become babus and do the same. This is the sad truth :(
I have seen people asking not the expected salary for the post applied rather how much 'upper waala income' one can get from that service. Be it for peon, driver, clerk or teacher.
Ok bro. Maybe I was wrong.Please dont make extrapolation regarding out incomes. By that logic if someone feels happy at job then his salary should be reduced as happiness can be considered as extra income only. By your logic if salary of teachers is reduced to 5k per month with no additional support still lakhs will apply for that post as it allows chit chat (out income).
Reagrding MDM n other scams: black money remain limited to headmaster n his associates. Very few cabdidates think of such things while applying for teachers job.
Peopel r dying for job of government teacher because it allows people with poor skill to get good salary. For same skill they may get salary of less than 10 k in open market but 40k in govt. I hv never seen highly skilled teachers @ reputed private schools (good salary) applying for govt. teachers post.(* experience related to bihar governments decision to give teachers job to trained candidates.)
My point was not to generalize anyone or anything. I respect all professions and teachers most.Good point of people applying for teacher where extra income is almost 'nil'.The argument of cheap and quick money does not hold ground. Lakhs of students apply for post of teacher where extra source of income is almost nil. (Those who r not headmaster)
The main reason is higher pay for lower skill atleast at lower levels. For instance a driver in open market can get maximum12 k to 15k. But in public sector it may go upto 35 to 40k with many additional benefits.
In answer to this, I would like to highlight the issue of poor status of government schools. Even if the teacher is not earning extra, many of them are just there for passing time and chilling instead of providing education to kids. I consider this as a way of making cheap money. Because, without doing anything and being absent for long period, you are still getting full salary.Plus, there is a lot of quid pro quo among headmasters and teachers in school admissions, mid day meal, money for purchasing clothes etc.
People have suffered enough from hands of babus. So, they themselves want to become babus and do the same. This is the sad truth :(
I have seen people asking not the expected salary for the post applied rather how much 'upper waala income' one can get from that service. Be it for peon, driver, clerk or teacher.
Generalization of teachers is not good. I have seen teachers in government schools working very diligently whatever duties are assigned to them. They are burdened with examination duties, election duties, even census works are carried on by them. The success of major government programs like MDM etc are due to the exemplary work done by thousands of teachers out there.
On the other hand there were also teachers in my private school who just came to class, read the chapters, whiled away their time, picked up their salaries and went happily to their homes. There are people like this on both sides - Government as well as private. The thing is we should not put everyone under the same blanket.
Ok, I will just give few example so that the discussion is just not on teachers. I am sorry if anyone got hurt due to statements on teachers. I respect teachers most.
This is based on my own experiences and few of my friends who are working at PSUs or government departments to point out the inefficient system
1. Fire Safety engineer at Bombay High - A minor fire was there. The seniors did not want to report it because it can have a negative impact on their career profile.
Result - A major fire took place few days later and my friend had to put his own life at stake to douse that fire. And yeah, they gave him an award for his bravery.
2. Biometric Attendance system not working at a renowned PSU - No one to correct it so that it can reveal the truth of their attendance. My friend took and tried to correct it. Nothing happened.
3. The street light in my locality failed. I wrote a mail and few of locality members visited the main office. No one came to fix that light. The employee came after 20 days and asked Rs. 100 for 'chai paani'
4. Friend travelled in a train. Asked TTE to somehow give a confirmed birth from RAC. A waiting ticket person paid 100 and got the confirmed birth
5. Poor person wanted to get date at civil court. Peshkar asked him to pay Rs. 100. Person had come on cycle from ~20 KM. He had to give that money. In lunch, he had brought roti, namak and achar. Trust me, I am not making this up.
6. Friend wanted to submit his affidavit in SDM court. The peon asked him to pay 500. As per him, There were more than 100 affidavits submitted in that office that day.
This is how inefficient our things are. Privatisation may not be the solution but the current solution is rotten to the core. Just do the bare minimum and stick to the traditions. You will go high. :(
Its just that those who want to do something, they are punished somehow.» show previous quotesMy point was not to generalize anyone or anything. I respect all professions and teachers most.I wanted to point out inherent inefficiency in government services everywhere, be it in Judiciary, Offices etc. Teacher point was selectively put to counter my argument.
Got it. But what exactly is inefficiency? Is it lack of profit?
Yes, your point 1 is spot on. You can use social media to raise your grievances in private sector. Because, for them their brand image is paramount. In government departments, there is nothing like that.Good points. However similar inefficiencies are in the private sector too.
1. Wanted to get my washing machine serviced. Kept complaining to the company, no response. 6 months went by. Posted on social media, bam next day guy arrives with all his tools like he would invent washing machine.
2. People jump ahead in line in the recruitment process through referrals. I am sure that's not very efficient.
There are many more examples similar to this. Yes a blanket privatisation is definitely not the solution. The current system should be made more efficient.
Hopefully, those of us who get selected will give their best to change this scenario and will work towards achieving antyodaya:)
I was going through the public disclosure document of non-recommended CSE 2020 candidates.
https://upsc.gov.in/sites/default/files/PublicDiscl-CSME-2020-engl-010222.pdf
Here is what I found
~700 engineers out of 964 !!
With due respect to so-called 'insiders', I think we should believe their words at our own risk. This just adds to speculation.
I can also make a prediction that since essays were tough, many people will be scoring low. While, one who have given 'original content' (dont know what is that) are getting rewarded with 140+ score.
I remember trusting their 'sources' at the time of prelims result. While the result came out that day itself, the date of the result was already provided by media 2~3 days back. While in the TG group, it was presented as if .....
@root@jack_Sparrownot related to general topic. A UI doubt. I am getting a 'Follow' button for myself when posting comments. Please look into this.
“The battle for Ukraine is a battle for Europe. If Putin is not stopped there, he will go further,” Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis warned last week in a joint news conference with U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin.
Looks like Lithuania doesn't think that way. In world history, AJP Taylor has assessed the actions of Hitler as a gamble. He states that more the West (mainly France and UK) tried to avoid confronting him, the more encouraged he became, and started his next invasion. The appeasement policy was one of the main reasons for World war 2. When another mad man, who even threatens nuclear annihilation, invades a democratic country, "we should not do anything but only condemn his actions" doesn't appear a wise thing to me.
"west has no locus standi here it's between these two nations": yeah, so let them fight it out right? Wow! Didn't know there are still supporters for the law of the jungle.
"Russian people don't deserve to suffer for any reason whatsoever": agreed, so do Ukrainians. Russian soldiers shouldn't die too. They're simply following orders and may even be brain washed to believe this mad man. The only solution is to stop war. If you've a solution other than kadi ninda (seriously? 🙏🏽), say it.
The solution is NATO giving assurance that they will not admit Ukraine. Ukraine is kind of a buffer state between Europe and Russia. Its geography and history does not allow it to take any side. It at all cost has to find a coexistence with Moscow.
Putin is only asking for assurance that NATO will not be expanded. They have repeatedly violated this assurance and expanded NATO in 5 waves apparently. Putin has no option left but to retaliate. Otherwise, it will be an existential threat to Russia. Economic sanctions/military involvement/Kadi Ninda etc dont matter in front of existential crisis.
But don't you think its a bit naïve to believe Putin's version of the story? - the same one which says Russia is facing an existential threat. If that is the case, then why doesn't he enjoy domestic support for this invasion? Its his mad adventure to cling to power, coupled by the old Soviet nostalgia which can't stand former states flourishing once out of its sphere of influence.
And even if there are security concerns, surely an invasion and indiscriminate bombing of cities, including civilian buildings, is not the answer. Russia is the aggressor, not the victim.
As for Ukraine, its a sovereign country, with every right to decide which alliance to join, especially for self defence. If Putin's agenda was to stop NATO expansion in Europe, then his moves have been laughable. All this while, with what's going on Ukraine, he's displaying exactly why European countries need NATO. This is manifest in how Finland is in the process to expedite its joining of NATO or how Switzerland and some other states have abandoned their age-old policy of neutrality to help Ukraine with arms, and support sanctions against Russia.
It will be difficult for Ukraine to show its sovereignty given its proximity with Russia. By same argument, India should also not be concerned with Chinese investments/alliance in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or Nepal. Putin is trying to show the west the cost of this wave of expansion. Same goes for Finland, Sweden requests. There will be consequences from Russian side.
I found this thread on twitterhttps://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1498491107902062592It shows how from Kissinger to Mearsheimer have opposed the expansion of NATO and why Russia will not sit back.
Yes, The domestic support angle is tricky. There have been protests. But we have seen how leaders use international affairs to get domestic support. Moreover, majority of Russian elites and oligarchs are still with Putin.
Regarding indiscriminate bombing of cities, I dont think Russians have resorted to it till yesterday. Kharkiv is just 40 Km from Russian border. If they had been using raw force, it would have been captured in 2~3 days itself. They are escalating the fire steadily though after sensing the response of Ukrainians.
Having said that, Ukraine has given weapons to civilians. This will reduce the difference between combatants and civilians. In this way, Russians will justify attacks on civilian infra.
I do hope that sense prevails and diplomacy becomes the solution. Hopefully, peace prevails!
Yes, Exactly. Also, He has played into American hands. Another US motive is to indulge Russia in another Afghanistan 1980 in Ukraine with guerrila warfare. The arms lobby in US wants to keep supplying weapons to insurgents (in future maybe), keep getting money at the cost of Russian Ukrainian lives.The action of Ukraine's president giving weapons to Civilians is idiotic. First of all giving weapons to civilians will make them enemy combatants and pitch them against experienced soldiers which will not end well. Second, once the dust of war settles Ukraine will be looking at a country with its civilians armed to the teeth. This has actually played right into the demands of far rights in Ukraine like the neo nazi Azov whose long standing demands have been freely giving weapons to civilians.But don't you think its a bit naïve to believe Putin's version of the story? - the same one which says Russia is facing an existential threat. If that is the case, then why doesn't he enjoy domestic support for this invasion? Its his mad adventure to cling to power, coupled by the old Soviet nostalgia which can't stand former states flourishing once out of its sphere of influence.
And even if there are security concerns, surely an invasion and indiscriminate bombing of cities, including civilian buildings, is not the answer. Russia is the aggressor, not the victim.
As for Ukraine, its a sovereign country, with every right to decide which alliance to join, especially for self defence. If Putin's agenda was to stop NATO expansion in Europe, then his moves have been laughable. All this while, with what's going on Ukraine, he's displaying exactly why European countries need NATO. This is manifest in how Finland is in the process to expedite its joining of NATO or how Switzerland and some other states have abandoned their age-old policy of neutrality to help Ukraine with arms, and support sanctions against Russia.
It will be difficult for Ukraine to show its sovereignty given its proximity with Russia. By same argument, India should also not be concerned with Chinese investments/alliance in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh or Nepal. Putin is trying to show the west the cost of this wave of expansion. Same goes for Finland, Sweden requests. There will be consequences from Russian side.
I found this thread on twitterhttps://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1498491107902062592It shows how from Kissinger to Mearsheimer have opposed the expansion of NATO and why Russia will not sit back.
Yes, The domestic support angle is tricky. There have been protests. But we have seen how leaders use international affairs to get domestic support. Moreover, majority of Russian elites and oligarchs are still with Putin.
Regarding indiscriminate bombing of cities, I dont think Russians have resorted to it till yesterday. Kharkiv is just 40 Km from Russian border. If they had been using raw force, it would have been captured in 2~3 days itself. They are escalating the fire steadily though after sensing the response of Ukrainians.
Having said that, Ukraine has given weapons to civilians. This will reduce the difference between combatants and civilians. In this way, Russians will justify attacks on civilian infra. I do hope that sense prevails and diplomacy becomes the solution. Hopefully, peace prevails!
Some argue Aryan invasion theory is true. Some say it was planted to create divide between north and south India. My doubt is after all these many years, does it really matter whether one is Aryan or not !!!@Bubba_gump ab aryan invasion theory pe lamba debate chalegait will have wide political ramifications
Hahaha. Ye lo bhai phir. Some hypothetical cutoff prediction using pattern recognition :p@brownianMotion wo hum nai layenge. isi se batao.
Its not an issue. Its a feature :p@Neyawn plz solve this issue. Even after deleting comment name gets reflected in reply.
Maybe if one is adding jargons, one should also explain them first before using them freely.@zombieland The language should be such that even a noob can understand. You can write dialectics of Hegel in simple language without mentioning the jargons of 'antithesis' and 'negation of negations'. You have to form a dialogue with the examiner in essay, like you are telling it to a 10 yo kid.
um i have a serious doubt can anyone sort it?
just out of curiosity i checked last UR IAS 2020
its rank 78 with general category in service allocation pdf i retrieved from a website.
in the marks allocation the the rank 78 is OBC.
my doubt is: has the OBC candidate taken UR seat?
im confused here
ive checked some toppers of categories other than ur as well in both lists. the category mentioned has not changed in both lists. is it just an error?
I may be wrong, but I believe this is how it works.
If someone has cleared UR cutoff, they will be allocated service from UR category. However, if their 1st or subsequent preference (service or cadre) is not getting satisfied from UR and if it is available in their category, then they will get the seat from their category.
This is reason why general category candidates are more in reserved list declared later as some general seats remain unfilled due to use of category by higher ranked candidates.
It might have happened that AIR 78 would have got preference in UR itself and there was no need of category or post verification, OBC certificate would not have been eligible or even a typo.
Aur uss new service ka 'timely' exam kaun aur kab conduct krega ? :p**Totally unrelated and random**
some people in some country (not India, just for clarification🙏🙏🙏) trying to halt an entire examination process by using judiciary be like "HUM TO DOOBE HE SANAM TUJHE BHI LE DOOBENGE"
Ek new all India service bnni chahiye , to conduct these govt exams in a timely n fair manner ( 😂😂 inspired by sarkaria ,punchi , 2nd arc nd niti aayog )
Aur uss new service ka 'timely' exam kaun aur kab conduct krega ? :p**Totally unrelated and random**
some people in some country (not India, just for clarification🙏🙏🙏) trying to halt an entire examination process by using judiciary be like "HUM TO DOOBE HE SANAM TUJHE BHI LE DOOBENGE"
Ek new all India service bnni chahiye , to conduct these govt exams in a timely n fair manner ( 😂😂 inspired by sarkaria ,punchi , 2nd arc nd niti aayog )
Wo decide krne k liye ek committee bnayenge,jo jaldi hi apni report degi .
Hahaha. Uss committee k report ko implement krne me yhi hoga.
@Capedcrusader1 Whatever she said has an academic source, but neither PM nor the bhakt gang has any source for anything. Their knowledge is old. 🤣
Did not know ki Bhakt gang or Liberandu bolkar iss platform pe bhi argument jeete ja skte hain !! :p
Hahahaha. Bolo bhai. Kuch bhi bolo. Democracy hai. :p@brownianMotion Jeetne ka moh nahi hai, bolkne ki ichha hai! 😀 Bhakt is bhakt!
On a serious note, this is an embarrassment for India. Questions the safety protocol of strategic weaponsBC kabhi galti se nuclear armed missile fire kar dala in logo ne to tabahi mach jayegi.. bohot badi mistake hai ye to
Ho bhi sakta hai. Also, MOD admitted it after 2 days. There might have been some backchannel talks though. Still cant figure out why are we still behind in PR management ?
DG-ISPR ko dekho, aisa dikhate hain jaise yhi hain sabse bade warriors and peacekeepers ! Claim kr rhe submarine ko bhi detect kiya.
Ye padho.https://www.thequint.com/voices/opinion/indian-missile-in-pakistan-what-led-to-the-accidental-firing#read-moreyup
its a serious thing
maine pehli baar suna h aisa
Nuclear weapon bhi gum ho gya hai USA ka kbhi.
Yeah. But pichle 2~3 years se humlog bhi peeche ja rhe hain post Balakot strike.Yar ye Pakistani information warfare me bohot aage hai india se, even in terms of counter alliances..bas asli ladayi me peeche reh jate hai
Janhit k madenazzar iss poll ko pin hona chahiye.
