[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021
Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.
@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?
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Why do we see civil servants as something extra-ordinary?
Aren't they normal humans with a taste in art/literature/sports etc? Service rules do permit civil servants to involve themselves in art/literature/sports and earn from it. (Million times better than corrupt officers who act like gods)
They're also like us, kabhi aspirants hi the. Kisiko classical hindi music pasand hogi, kisiko selena gomez ki romantic songs. Who are we to judge?
How is performing in a song cringe? It's just an expression of art. Some may like it and some may not. But calling it as cringe is just not respecting someone's work. It takes a lot of effort to stand in front of the camera, let alone act and make it worth watching.
Kal ke din officers banne jaa rahe ho, let's be compassionate and empathetic towards every human that is leading a life with dignity and integrity. Aaj kisi ka gaana cringe lag sakta hai, kal kisi ka gareebi cringe lag sakti hai. What kind of officers are we aspiring to become if we can't even shed our personal biases and appreciate the expression of every human out there in all capacities.
When we have extra-ordinary expectations from ordinary humans, we make them powerful enough to exploit us. (Civil servants, Actors, Cricketers, Politicians.. The list is long). Let them just do their work and not be corrupt. Let us not give them importance more than they deserve. That is more than enough.
Kaafi log UPSC CSE pass kar chuke hai with hard-work, but how many go onto to become gem of a human?
How many of us can sit beside a homeless person, hug him/her and talk about their problems? How many of us can confront of our inner societal circle about the ill practices of patriarchy, religion, cast-ism, racism and regionalism and tell them that they are wrong? How many of us can find faults within ourselves and overcome stereotypes? How many of us aspire to become the best humans we can be?
We are all entangled in this race for exams, jobs, power, authority and luxury. We forget that we are fortunate to be in a better position than so many humans, isn't it our responsibility to be just be good, compassionate and brighten up as many lives as we can?
Just being a good human has become such a thing of the past. We can't look at anything without taking a dig at it. I just wish that the world becomes a better place and more people embrace the positive side of life.
I'll conclude by Quoting something that Sachin Tendulkar's father said to him.
As a parent, I would be happier
hearing people say, "Sachin is a good human being" than "Sachin is a
great cricketer" any day'
@HotBloodPrince Bang on. That guy's English was of another level. He was like a writer. I think he moved abroad for further studies as he couldn't clear cse despite 3-4 attempts.
The guy who went abroad was sleeplessnights89 and Jamie was the writer (he published his book after his tryst with the UPSC). Both had amazing command over the language they spoke.
sleeplessnights89,officially ya unofficially(deepak rawat, sonal chauhan) sab ajkl glossy a**hollery me hi lage hai! ye kaam thodi hai yar ek IAS ka! sooner or later some regulations on usage of social media will come.
I'm sorry sir. I humbly disagree. Officers like you have mentioned above are million times better than those sit 24x7 on social media do all kinds of useless things.
Though some of the content may not be as per the expectations of some, but people like Deepak rawat and similar others have brought out the lives of officers at such a level that even a kid residing in the slum gets to know what an officer does on duty. The lives of officers which was only accessible between the mighty walls of the collectorate, cars and armed security guards is now out in open for the public to see and feel it. There are thousands of kids who have gotten inspired by his videos. There is a feeling among the public that a DM is afterall a human and is very accessible. There is a lot of positive aspects to what he does on youtube, but sadly we only focus on the little negatives, that are there in almost all aspects of life.
Steve,@pizzza not every work of art is equal, most people have different tastes of course, and they are free to express their opinions of art work based on that taste. The question of 'who are you to decide' leads nowhere. Being a good human has nothing to do with keeping quiet or faking appreciation for something you don't really hold in high regard. As for the question of civil servants indulging in art, by all means. Upamanyu Chatterjee wrote soke fine books while in service. To each their own, including their judgements.
You may criticize his acting in technical terms, if you really want to add value to your criticism. Calling it embarrassing without any solid reason is unjust for any human being, be it anyone. And i feel that it's not fair for an aspiring civil servant to hold such biases when we are expected to work with people from various walks of life. You may disagree with me, i absolutely respect your opinion, but this is what i feel. Peace from my side.
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@pizzza Civil servants have liberty of expression through art, literature, acting but I particularly don't like Deepak Rawat making videos of his everyday work and posting it on YouTube. Though not mentioned in the code of conduct for civil servant, I think it's unethical to put videos of your daily work on social media platforms. Some of his videos are so fake/staged like in one of his video where he's stopping a bullet rider and charging him for not wearing helmet. Why he needs to film his day to day work (especially those which gets public attention) ? Is it just to show off ? And more over he has monetised his videos from which he is earning decent amount of money (not against someone earning money). His videos mostly are those which gets public attention like raiding Fair price shops, or scolding some employee or inspection of government hospital.
Nalanda,Tyler Durden@pizzza Civil servants have liberty of expression through art, literature, acting but I particularly don't like Deepak Rawat making videos of his everyday work and posting it on YouTube. Though not mentioned in the code of conduct for civil servant, I think it's unethical to put videos of your daily work on social media platforms. Some of his videos are so fake/staged like in one of his video where he's stopping a bullet rider and charging him for not wearing helmet. Why he needs to film his day to day work (especially those which gets public attention) ? Is it just to show off ? And more over he has monetised his videos from which he is earning decent amount of money (not against someone earning money). His videos mostly are those which gets public attention like raiding Fair price shops, or scolding some employee or inspection of government hospital.
Yes in a way he is harassing local public with a view to earn name, fame and may be money through social media. What he does in his videos represents a false impression of civil services to the general public. Honest officers and those who are doing 'actual work' don't need a camera to showcase their work.
Nalanda,@pizzza Civil servants have liberty of expression through art, literature, acting but I particularly don't like Deepak Rawat making videos of his everyday work and posting it on YouTube. Though not mentioned in the code of conduct for civil servant, I think it's unethical to put videos of your daily work on social media platforms. Some of his videos are so fake/staged like in one of his video where he's stopping a bullet rider and charging him for not wearing helmet. Why he needs to film his day to day work (especially those which gets public attention) ? Is it just to show off ? And more over he has monetised his videos from which he is earning decent amount of money (not against someone earning money). His videos mostly are those which gets public attention like raiding Fair price shops, or scolding some employee or inspection of government hospital.
Lol no bro. I humbly think that you're mistaken on a few things.
1. Service rules do not allow you to monetize your official duties. The money from the videos which are monetized must be going into the government coffers.
2."His videos mostly are those which gets public attention like raiding Fair price shops, or scolding some employee or inspection of government hospital. "- This is what a civil servant does on field duty. Vigilance - Inspection - Reprimand - Action
3."Why he needs to film his day to day work (especially those which gets public attention) ? Is it just to show off ? "- He films his work so that people like us can get a glimpse of it. His is a public job, it may seem show off, but it is just the nature of his job :P
4."I think it's unethical to put videos of your daily work on social media platforms"- Your point taken, but according which dimension of ethics is it unethical to put videos of your daily work on social media platforms?
5."Some of his videos are so fake/staged like in one of his video where he's stopping a bullet rider and charging him for not wearing helmet."- Lol no, he can be sued if he posts fake things. None of it is fake, there is not a single reason for him to post fake things. And about the bullet rider, that happens all the time. If DMs, SPs, SDMs, DSPs are free, they do go on rounds and if they come across any suspicious activities, they may ask some questions to such a person. Remember, In a district, it is the responsibility of a DM to maintain law and order.
6. Coming to the video you're talking about, I think you've not seen it fully and must have formed opinions from what the aspirants usually say. I've seen that video and what Mr. Rawat is doing is perfectly normal. The bullet does not have the vehicle registration number, it has written UP Swasthya Vibhag on the number plate and the rider does not have driving license. That is why he was stopped and questioned. Posting the video for you,
7. I can post so many of his videos where he has done a lot of good work, but i guess it's better to form opinions on your own through logic and reasoning, after searching and going through his videos. (Please do not believe opinions circulated in media, verify it on your own).
I'm now feeling guilty of spending too much time on this :D I'm going back to books. See you and have a good day. Peace from my side.
nero,AJ_@pizzza what about anonymity? A public servant is supposed to work in an anonymous manner, here he is straight away portraying his official work as personal acts. Not unethical but seriously improper, won't you agree ?
"public" servant and "anonymity". Now you think of the relation between these two terms :D
1. He is not portraying his official work as a personal act. It is the wrong perception of a few misinformed people and the false opinion that is going around.
2. We all want transparency in public service. We read that everyday, we write it in the answers, we all want CCTVs in the office, we want to see what's happening but when we get a free chalta-phirta CCTV, we are now blaming it. I think what he is doing is perfectly fine. I don't see any issue with it, be it moral and legal.
Now before i feel more and more guilty of commenting here early in the morning, i'll escape :D see you.
Chanakya,
@pizzza Civil servants have liberty of expression through art, literature, acting but I particularly don't like Deepak Rawat making videos of his everyday work and posting it on YouTube. Though not mentioned in the code of conduct for civil servant, I think it's unethical to put videos of your daily work on social media platforms. Some of his videos are so fake/staged like in one of his video where he's stopping a bullet rider and charging him for not wearing helmet. Why he needs to film his day to day work (especially those which gets public attention) ? Is it just to show off ? And more over he has monetised his videos from which he is earning decent amount of money (not against someone earning money). His videos mostly are those which gets public attention like raiding Fair price shops, or scolding some employee or inspection of government hospital.
Lol no bro. I humbly think that you're mistaken on a few things.
1. Service rules do not allow you to monetize your official duties. The money from the videos which are monetized must be going into the government coffers.
2."His videos mostly are those which gets public attention like raiding Fair price shops, or scolding some employee or inspection of government hospital. "- This is what a civil servant does on field duty. Vigilance - Inspection - Reprimand - Action
3."Why he needs to film his day to day work (especially those which gets public attention) ? Is it just to show off ? "- He films his work so that people like us can get a glimpse of it. His is a public job, it may seem show off, but it is just the nature of his job :P
4."I think it's unethical to put videos of your daily work on social media platforms"- Your point taken, but according which dimension of ethics is it unethical to put videos of your daily work on social media platforms?
5."Some of his videos are so fake/staged like in one of his video where he's stopping a bullet rider and charging him for not wearing helmet."- Lol no, he can be sued if he posts fake things. None of it is fake, there is not a single reason for him to post fake things. And about the bullet rider, that happens all the time. If DMs, SPs, SDMs, DSPs are free, they do go on rounds and if they come across any suspicious activities, they may ask some questions to such a person. Remember, In a district, it is the responsibility of a DM to maintain law and order.
6. Coming to the video you're talking about, I think you've not seen it fully and must have formed opinions from what the aspirants usually say. I've seen that video and what Mr. Rawat is doing is perfectly normal. The bullet does not have the vehicle registration number, it has written UP Swasthya Vibhag on the number plate and the rider does not have driving license. That is why he was stopped and questioned. Posting the video for you,
7. I can post so many of his videos where he has done a lot of good work, but i guess it's better to form opinions on your own through logic and reasoning, after searching and going through his videos. (Please do not believe opinions circulated in media, verify it on your own).
I'm now feeling guilty of spending too much time on this :D I'm going back to books. See you and have a good day. Peace from my side.
Har baar peace from my side bol ke vapis aa jate ho pizzza! 😁😁😁
@pizzza what about anonymity? A public servant is supposed to work in an anonymous manner, here he is straight away portraying his official work as personal acts. Not unethical but seriously improper, won't you agree ?
"public" servant and "anonymity". Now you think of the relation between these two terms :D
1. He is not portraying his official work as a personal act. It is the wrong perception of a few misinformed people and the false opinion that is going around.
2. We all want transparency in public service. We read that everyday, we write it in the answers, we all want CCTVs in the office, we want to see what's happening but when we get a free chalta-phirta CCTV, we are now blaming it. I think what he is doing is perfectly fine. I don't see any issue with it, be it moral and legal.
Now before i feel more and more guilty of commenting here early in the morning, i'll escape :D see you.
Although it's no topic to discuss since each individual has their own way of looking at such things. However, there are certain aspects which are worth mentioning:
1. He definitelyportrayshis official acts as personal acts. The name of the channel is his own name and not his office's. There's no misinformation regarding his videos. It's pretty evident who is the protagonist in his video, never mentioning/portraying somebody else's work, let alone the office. His way of talking to his fellow colleagues show who is he glorifying.
2.Having CCTVs, bodycams is no way comparable to having a 4k film crew around to have clickbait effects. If he's so transparent, he should work towards section 4 of RTI in his district. You can ask any Haridwari, how transparent and grievances work in his office. The amount of time he invests in his film crew, he could take efficient steps in developing a good grievance redressal mechanism.
Although there's nothing wrong in garnering the limelight (to each to his won) but solely using official duties to create larger than life image of oneself (and not of the office) is in my opinion nothing that should be encouraged.
But anyway, it's subjective and should be. There should be people on the both sides. But as somebody who wishes to be in a public office in a country where bureaucracy has more of a negative connotation to it, I think we should encourage real changes and not HD videos of a DM stopping a biker. He could reform the traffic management with the Police officials where every SI is able to do what he did in this video without asking for a bribe. But again, nothing "wrong" but definitely nothing right either.
@pizzza just do one thing. Download his videos and repost them on other) your channel. You will either get instant copyright notice or video will be deleted
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