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Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?

So Mains 2021 has begun. Essay Paper is here

1. https://blog.forumias.com/upsc-ias-mains-2021-essay-question-paper/


2. GS Paper 1 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-1-question-paper

3. GS Paper 2 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-2-question-paper 






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How was your paper? How did you approach the paper?

root,Neyawnand26 otherslike this
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@D503 but while talking all about security interests of large countries we tend to forget about sovereignity and independent polity of Ukraine or any small country  .
It is wrong to assume that a nation which is small must align with some of the big power giving up its own independent interests .
If war is the logic for safeguarding its security interest , india should have captured nepal and srilanka (hambantota).
What russia has done is totally disproportionate reaction to otherwise legitimate security concerns which should have been handled diplomatically .


Dionysus,AKPSand2 otherslike this
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Any idea how many of those who get recommended by upsc appear for the exam again.. I m talking about those who do not get IAS or IFS(it's obvious btw)

My personal opinion.. majority of them try to improve their rank..

But the question is.. how many of them succeed in making it to the list again..

VERY FEW... 

Despite knowing what it takes to get into the list they struggle to secure a rank..

Doesn't that signify that this exam is very unpredictable..

Subjectivity of the evaluators and neck throat competition for each mark is what sums up the whole story..


Any comments folks...

No comments??


Anybody atleast..


Come on folks ..share your thoughts..

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@HankShrader u r right bro subjectivity and uncertainty factor is very high in this exam .And we get to hear the stories of only successful candidates .


RaGa,
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In some questions , due to lack of time/space , I have written some generic terms in conclusion like "sustainable model balancing both devlpmt and envirmt should be followed", "inclusive growth approach needed" etc 

Should I have just left the conclusion part instead of writing such cliched terms?

plmokn25688524,Akkkuand1 otherslike this
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intro body concl is told to us to be written at all costs. upsc never said anything on this. i think this is primary reason for missing out on questions due to time issue. 
plmokn25688524,Tk17
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@tarun17  Conclusion imo generally is a summary of your answer/way forward

So it's fine to write generic & cliched term if it sums up your points in a succinct manner


plmokn25688524,Tk17
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intro body concl is told to us to be written at all costs. upsc never said anything on this. i think this is primary reason for missing out on questions due to time issue. 

I know someone (IAS now), who got 136 in GS1, used to write the answers in straight bullet point format, without any intro/conclusion. Though I myself didn't try it, that definitely means this IBC format, like many other things propagated by coaching wallahs is just another myth.

Tk17,
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@Capedcrusader1 sorry, don't want to tell the name. 


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intro body concl is told to us to be written at all costs. upsc never said anything on this. i think this is primary reason for missing out on questions due to time issue. 

Upsc toh data, committee, scholar, diagram example kuch bhi likhne nhi kehta. Iska mtlb ye thode hi na hai ke ye sab nhi krna hota.

IBC format completion dikhata h. Generally 10 markers m isko skip kr sakte hain bt 15markers m likhba acha rehta h. Aur suppose k ek question m time jyada lg gya toh agle m intro ya conclusion skip kr dete hain time management k liye. At the end max marks  body p hi milna h.

Bt list m aane k baad competition 1-2 number ka hota h. 1-1 number pe 8-10 students. Yha aap kuch bhi krke unn 1 number k lead k liye fight maarte ho.

EiChan,plmokn25688524and1 otherslike this
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@zombieland han ye baat sahi h
competition toh logo ke beech me hai
ab jaise jaise content ki jagah sudarta aur logistics ke marks mil rahe hain waise hi align hona padega
thats the reason ill have to learn some things out of the box


EiChan,
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Such a good discussion to understand the multifaceted nature of the current Russia-Ukraine crisis. 

Good job guys! :D

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I know someone (IAS now), who got 136 in GS1, used to write the answers in straight bullet point format, without any intro/conclusion. Though I myself didn't try it, that definitely means this IBC format, like many other things propagated by coaching wallahs is just another myth.

Myth...

Writing in IBC format is a myth..

Wow.. propagate more gyaan like this..


Did you see how he wrote in the paper.. people claim to prepare 6 months and get double digit rank.. does it mean we should fall for such claims..


Point is ..


After one gets success..they will make unrealistic claims to make their success even bigger.. to add to the uniqueness of the strategy..

Writing in bullet points is not the issue here.. but writing the points which form the introduction is crucial..

Eg.. if the question is.. explain the  causes of 1857 war..

The candidate cannot write causes starting with first word.. like Economic..

Religious..

Political..blah blah


But rather start with when it was fought..

Between whom.. 

Areas of influence..etc etc..

If these few points are written in bullet or para.. doesn't matter but what matters is that they should be written..

Getting 136 in 2016-17 was easier.. when cut off went 807 I guess..

Now it's equivalent to around 120 at best..




plmokn25688524,Akkku
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Any idea how many of those who get recommended by upsc appear for the exam again.. I m talking about those who do not get IAS or IFS(it's obvious btw)

My personal opinion.. majority of them try to improve their rank..

But the question is.. how many of them succeed in making it to the list again..

VERY FEW... 

Despite knowing what it takes to get into the list they struggle to secure a rank..

Doesn't that signify that this exam is very unpredictable..

Subjectivity of the evaluators and neck throat competition for each mark is what sums up the whole story..


Any comments folks...

No comments??


Anybody atleast..


Come on folks ..share your thoughts..

I know a guy, got in irs in his 4th attempt in 2016. Gave 2 more attempts to get a higher service (last in 2019). Didn't qualify mains once, in last attempt was able to improve upon his rank in 2016, but still got a worse service than irs (vacancies reduced greatly wrt 2016). So improving rank is possible but breaking into top 100 is as difficult as it is for a first timer. 

plmokn25688524,
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why..are..you..typing..like..this..are..you..12..
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@necromancer summary plz🙂


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@zombieland I feel conclusion can be skipped due to time issues, especially in 10 marks. But, intro seems to be so much wired in our systems that even time issues don't let us skip it. Also, feel without intro, answer would look very abrupt but without conclusion, not that much.


EiChan,plmokn25688524and1 otherslike this
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Results date any insider info?
plmokn25688524,
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» show previous quotes

I know someone (IAS now), who got 136 in GS1, used to write the answers in straight bullet point format, without any intro/conclusion. Though I myself didn't try it, that definitely means this IBC format, like many other things propagated by coaching wallahs is just another myth.

Myth...

Writing in IBC format is a myth..

Wow.. propagate more gyaan like this..


Did you see how he wrote in the paper.. people claim to prepare 6 months and get double digit rank.. does it mean we should fall for such claims..


Point is ..


After one gets success..they will make unrealistic claims to make their success even bigger.. to add to the uniqueness of the strategy..

Writing in bullet points is not the issue here.. but writing the points which form the introduction is crucial..

Eg.. if the question is.. explain the  causes of 1857 war..

The candidate cannot write causes starting with first word.. like Economic..

Religious..

Political..blah blah


But rather start with when it was fought..

Between whom.. 

Areas of influence..etc etc..

If these few points are written in bullet or para.. doesn't matter but what matters is that they should be written..

Getting 136 in 2016-17 was easier.. when cut off went 807 I guess..

Now it's equivalent to around 120 at best..




You didn't get it. I didn't say that IBC format shouldn't be followed. I clearly said I myself followed it. What I said was, it's not an absolute must thing that IBC format has to be followed. That's the myth I was talking about.

Tk17,
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