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Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?

So Mains 2021 has begun. Essay Paper is here

1. https://blog.forumias.com/upsc-ias-mains-2021-essay-question-paper/


2. GS Paper 1 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-1-question-paper

3. GS Paper 2 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-2-question-paper 






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How was your paper? How did you approach the paper?

root,Neyawnand26 otherslike this
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keephustling,
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https://twitter.com/rishibagree/status/1497825103849025542

Bhakti cult started because they were inspired by Islam which had too much equality and "LIBERALISM" - said a Vision IAS teacher :|

plmokn25688524,
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https://twitter.com/rishibagree/status/1497825103849025542

Bhakti cult started because they were inspired by Islam which had too much equality and "LIBERALISM" - said a Vision IAS teacher :|

Majority of historians don't accept this view. 

She teaches well nd her society lectures are quite good but she leaks her biases too often.

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https://twitter.com/rishibagree/status/1497825103849025542

Bhakti cult started because they were inspired by Islam which had too much equality and "LIBERALISM" - said a Vision IAS teacher :|

Majority of historians don't accept this view. 

She teaches well nd her society lectures are quite good but she leaks her biases too often.

Yes. But the thing is its so wrong factually and logically. You cant go and quote such a thing in the mains answer that islamic is liberalism and reforms were being brought against it. You could have said about Buddhism or Jainism but Islam? A liberal religion? And you are saying it as "bs 19-20 ka fark" and moreover, 19 here is Hinduism and 20 is Islamism according to her. Oh man :||

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Generally people say our pm but she says your pm.

Bhakti movement got some inspirations from from Islam but saying it originated due to Islam is too much. If it was the second case bhakti saints would have simply copied texts of quoran. What was the need of compiling divyaprabhandams and tirumurais. Do the complex arguments of Ramanujacharya or shankaracharya find mention in quoran?

Arguments of equality and one god are already there in Rigveda.

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@Bubba_gump inhone paper ko kuch zaada hi factual bana dia
aisa kab aata tha pehle??
meri samajh toh ye h ki mains me analysis pe focus hota h dimensions pe focus hota h wayforward pe hota h aur ek structure hona chaiye 
lekin ye kya hai.. sare commitments likho, AQG changes batao,s400 batao 
aise toh guage karna tough hota chala jayega paper ka nature

sujective toh the hi nai gs 2 and 3 ke paper.

if you include 4/5 factual questions, you have again made it a game of luck. because people who know these clearly have an edge.


Bubba_gump,MichaelScarn
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Majority of historians don't accept this view. 

She teaches well nd her society lectures are quite good but she leaks her biases too often.

Acc to few historians, liberal elements in Islam were - -

No concept of caste 

Monotheism

Largely free of superstitions unlike early medieval Indian society

So their logic is if a society doesn't practice caste system nd polytheism,it will largely be a liberal n progressive one. 


However , Turkish invaders practiced- -

Racism ( i hope u have read about balban)

Slavery

Not quite free of superstitions actually. Infact , rise of sufi Islam led to many superstitions.

By the time, Turks invaded India, their society was no more a liberal & progressive one.

So based on all these arguments,the above view is rejected mostly.



RaGa,
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one doubt wrt ethics case studies:

i have not used the concepts of part A in case studies by specifically mentioning (ex: i have not written "as per utilitarian perpective iwill do this... or , by going for rights apporach to solve ethical dilemma)

reason for not doing so is that i feel that theory is tested i part A. they need solutions now and analysis.

also, i have scored fine (as per me) in case studies of mocks without writing the abovementioned


is it an issue?

Forumite,
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@Capedcrusader1 sahi baat h paper was very factual .My remembering capacity is very low and I paid for it. 
plmokn25688524,
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@Capedcrusader1 I am of opinion that case study part is also about Integrity  and Aptitude which checks decision making.Ethical jargon may not replace innovative solutions and rational decision making.
Writing them may or may not help but they r not the core of case studies. 


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@Forumite thanks 
i think it wont matter


Forumite,
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https://twitter.com/rishibagree/status/1497825103849025542

Bhakti cult started because they were inspired by Islam which had too much equality and "LIBERALISM" - said a Vision IAS teacher :|

Majority of historians don't accept this view. 

She teaches well nd her society lectures are quite good but she leaks her biases too often.

Yes. But the thing is its so wrong factually and logically. You cant go and quote such a thing in the mains answer that islamic is liberalism and reforms were being brought against it. You could have said about Buddhism or Jainism but Islam? A liberal religion? And you are saying it as "bs 19-20 ka fark" and moreover, 19 here is Hinduism and 20 is Islamism according to her. Oh man :||

It's all contextual. We are comparing Islam with present day Hinduism. Back then, in Islam a slave could become the ruler! The "Hindu society" was then caste ridden and rotten with extreme decadence on one hand (tantric cults allowed even for incest) and poor famished untouchables on the other. We were inward looking and without much contact with the outside world (as mentioned by Al Biruni).

BTW, Shankara wasn't a bhakti saint, he was into Jnana marga.

Dionysus,Just_relentlessand2 otherslike this
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one doubt wrt ethics case studies:

i have not used the concepts of part A in case studies by specifically mentioning (ex: i have not written "as per utilitarian perpective iwill do this... or , by going for rights apporach to solve ethical dilemma)

reason for not doing so is that i feel that theory is tested i part A. they need solutions now and analysis.

also, i have scored fine (as per me) in case studies of mocks without writing the abovementioned


is it an issue?

Not an issue.

I myself got good enough marks in my last mains' gs4 (121, way back in 2016 exam😅), without using any technical words/concepts. The only concept/term I used was in a case study, "the slippery slope", which actually is a general English phrase.

So, this time also I have used may be two or three technical words alone in total, in gs4.

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https://twitter.com/rishibagree/status/1497825103849025542

Bhakti cult started because they were inspired by Islam which had too much equality and "LIBERALISM" - said a Vision IAS teacher :|

Her way of teaching is interesting. I wouldn't mind sitting in her class. The Cheraman masjid she mentioned, wasn't built in 7th century as is commonly known. It was built only in 11th century AD. The 7th century story was made up by local muslims, as is the case with most religions, to amplify it's significance. Historian MGS Narayanan has discarded this story with proof. Similarly the Christians of Kerala used to believe that St Thomas came to Kerala and converted them, which is another disregarded story now.

Bhakti movement achieved it's organised form in Tamil country around seventh century, but that concept can be traced back to Bhagavatism and Puranas.

Present day historians have questioned the social reform aspect of early day Tamil bhakti movement as well. Lower caste presence was negligible. Most of the saints were Brahmins and Vellala caste (rich peasants).

Just_relentless,necromancer
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lets see what happens


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Case studies are also for giving real-workable solutions laced with some ethics. Idealism is good my friend, but since everyone writes those "ideal"-nayak like terms, it becomes a bit boring. If there is a case study on road accident, what is the need of bringing Immanuel Kant and Bentham in the text
Akkku,Forumite
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one doubt wrt ethics case studies:

i have not used the concepts of part A in case studies by specifically mentioning (ex: i have not written "as per utilitarian perpective iwill do this... or , by going for rights apporach to solve ethical dilemma)

reason for not doing so is that i feel that theory is tested i part A. they need solutions now and analysis.

also, i have scored fine (as per me) in case studies of mocks without writing the abovementioned


is it an issue?

I have one doubt..


Regarding question 1a and 1 b in ethics section A


(a) Identify five ethical traits on which one can plot the performance of a civil servant. Justify their inclusion in the matrix.



(b)   Identify ten essential values that are needed to be an effective public servant. Describe                 the /ways and means to prevent non-ethical behaviour in the pubic servants.




The values asked in both questions were overlapping..

Is it okay to repeat the same.. because how can the desired values change in 2 different answers..

Should we deliberately try to write different values for uniqueness or focus more on consistently of thoughts..


plmokn25688524,
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@preeti2210 no issues u can skip. What r ur optionals??


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@Declared_Dead i cant say that there is no issue in overlapping answers.
but my instinct said that they framed these 2 questions together to tire one out, in other words they did expect us to write 15 different values. i have absolutely no idea what the 2nd part of first q is asking so i would say that it is at best a misdirection. thats me in my denial mode when i know i messed up something.

by misdirection i simple mean that the second part means nothing. what i wrote in first q was a breakdown of values of neutrality. there ae 4 of those. i explained them a bit as one wouldnt know they are different unless i explicitly tell them. this helped me write 10 different values in question 2.

so thats all i can add from my end in those 2 questions. i can only talk about what i did.


MichaelScarn,
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