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Mains 2021 Result declared - In or Out?

So Mains 2021 has begun. Essay Paper is here

1. https://blog.forumias.com/upsc-ias-mains-2021-essay-question-paper/


2. GS Paper 1 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-1-question-paper

3. GS Paper 2 : https://blog.forumias.com/download-upsc-ias-mains-2021-gs-2-question-paper 






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How was your paper? How did you approach the paper?

root,Neyawnand26 otherslike this
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This is something that's troubled me for a while now. What if the evaluators actually read our answers scripts thoroughly. Maybe it's all about the content and coherence. We may have a lot of content which is really not of much coherence. An average answer has to satisfy the demand too. I mean of it really was about sticking to ibc, using diagrams and flowcharts, and other ptesent

@Chanakya bhai itne direct questions m coherence ki kha dikkat aa gyi. GS3 toh poora factual bna diya hai.

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She is that unlucky person who got top 100 rank but still couldn't be appointed

nerdslayer,
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@Forumite Hopefully 95~ atleast for ppl who have attempted all questions addressing the demand with basic content

But it baffles me when someone says they have left 1 1/2 Qns but still score 100+ , maybe presentation and stats have higher weightage I guess


The words *addressing the demand with  basic content* are very very subjective.. n most difficult to achieve..


All those who attempt mains should get 95 in all papers by this logic..

Many toppers..like AIR 65.. scored 75 in GS 3 in 2019.. how do we explain that then

Bhai kitne log gs3 m sare qiestions m basic demand fulfill kr paayenge iss saal? 4-5 sawal toh aate hi nhi hain. Usme average nhi kuch bhi content likha hota hai. Toh marks bhi waise hi aate. Selected logo k bhi 90 se kum aate hain.

3 ghante main 20 questions main saare questions ka demand address krna bohot badi baat hoti hai. Sab nhi kr paate. Bohot toh last k 15 minute m 5 sawal attempt krte hain. Toh sbhi ko 95 bhi nhi aata.

plmokn25688524,Forumiteand2 otherslike this
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@Street_lamp No man. 95 is not okayish but a very good score. Probably, one can get rank.


Tk17,Street_lamp
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@zombieland Wahi na we prepare all sort of material and basically just vomit it out in the exam. How relevant it is to what's been asked, that's what matters. We may think it's an average answer I've given data, names etc but the evaluator may not think so. S-400 main I'm not sure kya likha hai logo ne, but I'm sure most of us are counting it as an average attempt coz topic familiar tha


plmokn25688524,
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@HankShrader It may seem that why not everyone is getting 95 but the challenge is 
1 Some people spend too much time on 12- 13 Q and end up hurrying in 7-8.
2.Many claim they have so called completed all 20 Questions. 
Doing justice with all questions is very different from somehow completing all Questions. 
3.Some miss the demand/parts of Q.
4.Three four Questions are difficult and even average content is difficult to write. 
5.Some write decent content but their presentation and structure is not appropriate. 


plmokn25688524,Street_lamp
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There was a person who claims that he checked Q  9,10,19,20 of GS 3 in 2020

He is a retired Major General and was in intelligence services too.

He told that examiners read each and every word in the answer copy.


Chanakya,Tk17and2 otherslike this
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@Forumite I hope that's the case bhai, I really do. Coz I suck at presentation. Once my lab teacher remarked that my handwriting was worse than his signature ( I've fortunately improved it enough to make it legible)


Tk17,
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There was a person who claims that he checked Q  9,10,19,20 of GS 3 in 2020

He is a retired Major General and was in intelligence services too.

He told that examiners read each and every word in the answer copy.


Could you please provide link of this source.. eager to know evaluators point of view..

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@HankShrader Kindly check DM


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@Forumite summed up perfectly

If by Attempting all questions ,one thinks about quantity alone then it's of no use

Quality difficult to standardize
But a legible writing and relevant content should be considered as basic standard of quality
Forumite,Tk17
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I don't know about other mistakes I must have made


But in State reorganization Qn ,I wrote V Krishna Menon instead of VP Menon 🙃🙃

Hopefully the evaluator would just let it go by just seeing the word Menon

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Akkkusaid

@Street_lamp No man. 95 is not okayish but a very good score. Probably, one can get rank.


Yeah that's a good score ,I was just surprised to see that how it is basically possible to score 95 yet most couldn't

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Unrelated to the marks discussion, but just read the case of Aashima Goyal (CSE-2019). It was because of wrong usage of EWS certificate that she was denied the service. I personally know A LOT of candidates, who are otherwise serving in the grade pay of 5400 (approx monthly  gross income 80K-100k), who are claiming such EWS quotas. They say that they are on probationary period and hence this and that. One person I know got into the top-3 service in EWS category but did not join because he feared that later on he may be caught. The other person I know comes from an affulent family and was earning 75,000 pm in 2016 and resigned in 2020, still claimed EWS. 


Now the point is, the candidates shall be asked to submit EWS certificate prior to Mains, to expedite and weed out the non eligible students. These RICH people and eating away the benefits of the intended beneficiaries.

Akkku,Forumiteand1 otherslike this
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Also people who have been selected any government job (with grade pay of 4200 and above) prior to filling the form (no excuse about probationary period),  shall positively be denied any EWS reservation.
Akkku,
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@Admgenalanezh Not like that , they first deny ews . Then they see if ews has been used at any stage , if yes then out of services else they are put into general list.
Aashima had used EWS in prelims.


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EiChansaid

@Admgenalanezh Not like that , they first deny ews . Then they see if ews has been used at any stage , if yes then out of services else they are put into general list.
Aashima had used EWS in prelims.


Prelims mei hi sabse zyada use hai EWS ka.

EiChan,
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Unrelated to the marks discussion, but just read the case of Aashima Goyal (CSE-2019). It was because of wrong usage of EWS certificate that she was denied the service. I personally know A LOT of candidates, who are otherwise serving in the grade pay of 5400 (approx monthly  gross income 80K-100k), who are claiming such EWS quotas. They say that they are on probationary period and hence this and that. One person I know got into the top-3 service in EWS category but did not join because he feared that later on he may be caught. The other person I know comes from an affulent family and was earning 75,000 pm in 2016 and resigned in 2020, still claimed EWS. 


Now the point is, the candidates shall be asked to submit EWS certificate prior to Mains, to expedite and weed out the non eligible students. These RICH people and eating away the benefits of the intended beneficiaries.

I googled about the case. What I don't understand is UPSC asking her to produce the certificate for a different financial year and her reply that she needs more time to apply for it. But to the best of my knowledge, back-dated certificates will not be provided by government offices. UPSC could've rejected the candidature on that ground itself, that she doesn't have the relevant certificate, but they took the extra effort of obtaining ITR details of that year and proved without any doubt that the candidate is ineligible. I feel sorry for her, but I don't think UPSC can be blamed for it in any way.

plmokn25688524,
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Unrelated to the marks discussion, but just read the case of Aashima Goyal (CSE-2019). It was because of wrong usage of EWS certificate that she was denied the service. I personally know A LOT of candidates, who are otherwise serving in the grade pay of 5400 (approx monthly  gross income 80K-100k), who are claiming such EWS quotas. They say that they are on probationary period and hence this and that. One person I know got into the top-3 service in EWS category but did not join because he feared that later on he may be caught. The other person I know comes from an affulent family and was earning 75,000 pm in 2016 and resigned in 2020, still claimed EWS. 


Now the point is, the candidates shall be asked to submit EWS certificate prior to Mains, to expedite and weed out the non eligible students. These RICH people and eating away the benefits of the intended beneficiaries.

I googled about the case. What I don't understand is UPSC asking her to produce the certificate for a different financial year and her reply that she needs more time to apply for it. But to the best of my knowledge, back-dated certificates will not be provided by government offices. UPSC could've rejected the candidature on that ground itself, that she doesn't have the relevant certificate, but they took the extra effort of obtaining ITR details of that year and proved without any doubt that the candidate is ineligible. I feel sorry for her, but I don't think UPSC can be blamed for it in any way.

I think UPSC was quite compassionate in this case. When she said that she was not able to make certificate due to administrative issues, government took the burden of making certificate for that particular year instead of directly cancelling candidature. IT dep conducted detailed enquiry nd came to conclusion that she was not EWS. So, her candidature was cancelled. 

This is a welcoming step from upsc and governnent.

No 1,nerdslayerand1 otherslike this
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Her family itr was beyond 4 lacs means income in range of 25 lacs , that’s why it’s cancelled 


and even 4600 gp (9 month salary less than 8 lacs so they are in provided fulfill other criteria 

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