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[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

Because of the corona virus issue? If it does not happen then worst affected will be people whose interview is stuck, around 600-700 such people I think are yet to appear for their interview.


@neyawn sir and others, what is your take?

This is the official Thread for discussion of Prelims Postponement, Please do not create new threads for the same.

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@Patootie My friend's father is an IFoS officer (retd.) They live peacefully within the society. They are SC. No one ever discriminated with them. All eat together, play together and pretty much everything else. Does my friend need reservation??? And sorry i don't want to continue further here as this is a very sensitive topic.  Reservation must be there definitely be there but for the deserving. 
After independence there are 2 classes within the reserved categories, the so called developed SC class takes the benefit and the real deserving SC doesn't get them. As someone pointed earlier so many"meenas"but no "manjhis

On the other hand, the house help's daughter who is also SC and the mother is the sole bread earner. Do you think her daughter will become an IAS. So much irony...that house help sits on the floor in front of them, have separate cups and utensils. height of hypocrisy. Discrimination kaha ho raha hai khud he dekh lo. And this is the story of most households. Exceptions are always there.

PS- the house help's daughter wants to become SDM. I can't even describe what their condition is.  Reservation won't help her, cause some developed SC will bag the place. Personally I have no grievance against any reservation policy except if you are adding communities to the list then Plz exclude the developed ones. 

Won't be replying on this topic for now.
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@sulawesi from now onwards you are my guru


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some doubts

a) Is aryan invasion still considered as probable reason for fall of IVC

b) will upsc ask questions like military exercises list ( i think they will be asked in bank exams)

c) are awards based questions asked in upsc (--do--)


a.) some historians do consider this

b.) They can ask, just a yorker question, in case, match the following may be

c.) yes Indira Gandhi Peace Prize was asked in 2015, ISRO was the answer for that year. 

Edit: was in 2015 prelims

Indira Gandhi Prize for Peace, Disarmament and Development for 2014 was given to which one of the following?

(a) Bhabha Atomic Research Centre
(b) Indian Institute of Science
(c) Indian Space Research Organization
(d) Tata Institute of Fundamental research


sulawesi,
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@Patootie it's not about sc/st vs general..Its about rich sc/st vs poor sc/st..its about deserving obc vs bogus obc..It's about morality bro..For the sake of  Untouchability few rich sc/st/obc are robing their own brethren of their due legal social rights..Not fair..Unke baddua lagenge bhai..Garib sc/st/obc ko apne untouchability ka bahana krke unko loot rhe paap hai bhai ,,ghor paap.. General people like me are happy if reservation is being exercised by right sc/st/obc people


That's because the rich/more privileged sc/st are capable of being your competition while the less privileged manual scavenger is not. Untouchability is never a "bahana" no matter how rich you become. 

I don't think there is any need to paint yourself as the crusader for the voiceless. 

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@curiouscsebhai, in a peer-to-peer review forum, everyone is guru to everyother one.
Dattatreya  went to an extent of considering 24 elements as his guru

datta_24_gurus_750

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@Thanos_ main thing is that the class of poor and marginalized section of SC, ST, MBC's are not on forum or other such areas..... They are still struggling in hinterland, in urban slums etc..... And there had been  court cases in the past in courts by such poors against rich candidates selected under reserved category....


rafael,Thanos_
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Okkk..... Debate over reservation to be over and strategy for solving papers to b discussed now..... Plz post question paper link also... 
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Guys can someone tell how is the quality of KSG test series for prelims as I have seen on so many platforms people recommending that? Also if not then suggestion for any other test series apart from Vision as I have already tried that. 
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Guys can someone tell how is the quality of KSG test series for prelims as I have seen on so many platforms people recommending that? Also if not then suggestion for any other test series apart from Vision as I have already tried that. 

They are paid reviews. You must have read them on quora. Just open the profile of all those people who have recommended their test series. Every profile has same bio and only 1 answer.

Ps - not commenting on quality of test since i have not attempted them . They might be best in the market. Just telling that the reviews are paid.

HUMBLEF00L,mehuifs
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@Thanos_ no one knows when this problem will get solved..WHO says vaccine by mid 2021..rest says early 2021...even after decreasing there have been second wave in developed countries in S Korea, Australia even in Kerala..So UPSC will never give another date in case of request for further postponement..UPSC has to do a lot of arrangement for this one day..They wont b doing that again and again give another date with no idea when it will be normal..My suggestion was pragmatic keeping in view the problem of all candidates..No exam is not important than anyones life but let me choose whether I want to risk my life or exam...When Delhi had 4000cases we were even going to office in ola uber..My office is in lutyens zone and till date is having 51 cases one death..my housing society where I live is having till date 45+cases one death...Covid is infectious its dangerous but cant stop life altogether.take precautions.after xam if reqd quarantine urself..There is always a solution if we want..Sri lanka can have elections we can have ram mandir we can have id at jama masjid why not exam?However proper measures shouod be taken ensuring social distancing et all


Joeyisthebest,curiouscse
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All speculations/worries will be answered after upsc conducts nda exam or issues a notice against comducting it with in a week or by 14th the picture will be clear


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@sulawesi  Aryan Invasion Theory has been discredited. Many excavations recent being at Rakhigadhi have found there is no such thing as 'aryan gene'. Just another myth to create faultlines by historians (distortions). 
It's Time to cleanse the rubbish our books peddle. 
Study published here: 
https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2819%2930967-5


It has not been discredited. The paper you've referenced was misreported in the media for a long time. There are more convincing proofs of Steppe migration than any other theory. 

But I doubt if UPSC would ask this.

https://scroll.in/article/936872/two-new-genetic-studies-upheld-aryan-migration-theory-so-why-did-indian-media-report-the-opposite#:~:text=Amar%20Ujala%2C%20one%20of%20India's,the%20guru%20of%20South%20Asia.%E2%80%9D&text=It%20maintained%20that%20a%20race,the%20indigenous%20Indus%20Valley%20Civilisation. 

Tyler Durden,
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Aajao Aaj Reservation ka Class Lagate hai. 


I was silently just going through the thread to see if there was any information on prelims. The crass arguments against the reservation system forced me to login. 


You know what's sad? Those who don't even understand what kind of discrimination SC/ST community members face, have given interviews in civil services exam this year. It's not just sad, but appalling, abhorring and abominable. You inhuman beings are rotten pudine ke jhaad with zero utility. 


Before I make any arguments,

All those who think that Rich/Well Read/Govt Officers who belong to SC/ST community do not face discrimination. I HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU. 


STEPS TO FOLLOW FOR THE CHALLENGE:

1. GO TO YOUR PARENTS/ELDER RELATIVES IN YOUR HOUSE AND SAY GOOD EVENING.

2. ASK THEM IF THEY WILL ALLOW YOUR SIBLING/COUSIN TO MARRY AN IAS OFFICER/RICH PERSON BELONGING TO SC/ST COMMUNITY, BE IT ARRANGED OR LOVE MARRIAGE.

3. RECORD THE AUDIO/VIDEO OF THAT CONVERSATION and THEN COME POST IT HERE. 

4. AND THEN, HAPPILY AND JOYFULLY POST ALL YOUR ARGUMENTS AGAINST RESERVATION. 


The discrimination faced by SC/ST has least to do with poverty/economic inequality. It's the social inequality that has plagued them from thousands of years. If you don't at least understand this, please quit your upsc preparation. You'll do more harm than good as a civil servant.


For those who are unaware of what kind of discrimination SC/ST face:

1. Doesn't matter what the guy/girl does, doesn't matter how educated or rich he/she is. Doesn't matter how good of a human being they are, THEY WILL SIMPLY NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR MARRIAGE. You know what? Guys have been killed just because they belonged to SC/ST and they married so called upper caste girls. UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY NOW? LIVES WERE TAKEN OFF FOR NO REASON. Kabhi news bhi pad liya karo dimag khol ke.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/dalit-man-murdered-for-marrying-darbar-woman/articleshow/70151342.cms 

https://www.newsclick.in/dalit-man-MP-killed-marrying-upper-caste-woman-7-years-ago

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/two-arrested-for-killing-dalit-who-married-upper-caste-woman-2056054 

https://theprint.in/opinion/inter-caste-marriage-isnt-the-problem-marrying-a-dalit-man-is/262491/ 

2. Houses are not rented out. Doesn't matter even if you eat vegetarian food. You will be simply shown the door.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/finding-a-house-in-hassan-is-not-easy-for-muslims-dalits/article7266695.ece 

3. When it comes to postings in government jobs or facilities in job location. Doesn't matter even if you are an IAS, you will face discrimination. 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/caste-bias-plagues-civil-services-says-former-ias-officer/articleshow/72424416.cms 

https://theprint.in/india/governance/dalit-ias-officer-used-to-think-caste-bias-was-a-myth-now-hes-fighting-it/227427/ 

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/senior-telangana-ias-officer-quits-alleging-caste-discrimination-106264 

4. Even if you have the same set of skills, you will be discriminated against the applicants from so called upper castes. 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/scheduled-castes-among-worst-sufferers-of-india-s-job-problem/story-Qh0hyHy9UUTg1cIOpi5l2K.html 

http://www.isec.ac.in/WP%20361%20-%20Smritirekha%20Singhari%20and%20S%20Madheswaran%20-%20Final.pdf 


This is just the tip of the ice-berg. The subtle yet ferocious psychological trauma that one faces is beyond any physical pain. One feels like, am i even human like everyone else? why am i being treated differently at every step. If only were you in their shoes, would you understand the nerve wrenching experience associated with the existence.


Now I'm not claiming every SC/ST person to be a saint, I agree that just like in any community, there are some bad humans in this too, but they are in minority. There are a majority of SC/ST humans who are peaceful, neutral, just minding their own lives and yet being made to feel like why are we even born. No one deserves such undignified existence. Everyone needs to be treated like humans and IT'S YOU, ME AND EVERYONE else who need to RECOGNISE THIS FACT and STAND UP FOR THEM and MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY ARE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. 


What's ironical is that so many of us tweeted for BlackLivesMatter, but how many of us know that caste-ism and racism are very similar and yet, no one bats an eye for this. There have been international sanctions on countries for practicing racism and in our country, this oppression happens just like it's everyday business.

https://theconversation.com/racial-and-caste-oppression-have-many-similarities-37710 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/jugglebandhi/the-indian-caste-system-is-based-on-racism/ 

https://www.firstpost.com/india/indian-upper-caste-outrage-against-racism-in-the-west-is-in-jarring-contrast-to-apathy-towards-marginalised-at-home-8498041.html  


I can share so much more on this, but I hope that some of you understand what the discrimination is about and what you can do to make our society better. The change, my dear friends, starts from educating your near and dear ones. Ghar badlo toh desh badlega. 


I know some of you will be like media is reporting one side, toh bhaisaab let me tell you, i've seen all of this happening right infront of my eyes. Ab mai tumhara topper toh hu nahi jiski baat aap blindly maan jaoge. Isliye news articles daalne pade.


Bye for now.

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https://www.indiatvnews.com/education/higher-studies-jee-main-neet-exams-postponement-11-students-11-states-supreme-court-entrances-hearing-sc-ramesh-pokhriyal-nishank-640068


jee toh postpone ho hi jayega lagta hai


upsc ka kya final hai  ?

mains ki padai kare fir jaakar yaar,abhi toh saara time pre me ja rha 

Divine Shakti,
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Aajao Aaj Reservation ka Class Lagate hai. 


I was silently just going through the thread to see if there was any information on prelims. The crass arguments against the reservation system forced me to login. 


You know what's sad? Those who don't even understand what kind of discrimination SC/ST community members face, have given interviews in civil services exam this year. It's not just sad, but appalling, abhorring and abominable. You inhuman beings are rotten pudine ke jhaad with zero utility. 


Before I make any arguments,

All those who think that Rich/Well Read/Govt Officers who belong to SC/ST community do not face discrimination. I HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU. 


STEPS TO FOLLOW FOR THE CHALLENGE:

1. GO TO YOUR PARENTS/ELDER RELATIVES IN YOUR HOUSE AND SAY GOOD EVENING.

2. ASK THEM IF THEY WILL ALLOW YOUR SIBLING/COUSIN TO MARRY AN IAS OFFICER/RICH PERSON BELONGING TO SC/ST COMMUNITY, BE IT ARRANGED OR LOVE MARRIAGE.

3. RECORD THE AUDIO/VIDEO OF THAT CONVERSATION and THEN COME POST IT HERE. 

4. AND THEN, HAPPILY AND JOYFULLY POST ALL YOUR ARGUMENTS AGAINST RESERVATION. 


The discrimination faced by SC/ST has least to do with poverty/economic inequality. It's the social inequality that has plagued them from thousands of years. If you don't at least understand this, please quit your upsc preparation. You'll do more harm than good as a civil servant.


For those who are unaware of what kind of discrimination SC/ST face:

1. Doesn't matter what the guy/girl does, doesn't matter how educated or rich he/she is. Doesn't matter how good of a human being they are, THEY WILL SIMPLY NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR MARRIAGE. You know what? Guys have been killed just because they belonged to SC/ST and they married so called upper caste girls. UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY NOW? LIVES WERE TAKEN OFF FOR NO REASON. Kabhi news bhi pad liya karo dimag khol ke.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/dalit-man-murdered-for-marrying-darbar-woman/articleshow/70151342.cms 

https://www.newsclick.in/dalit-man-MP-killed-marrying-upper-caste-woman-7-years-ago

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/two-arrested-for-killing-dalit-who-married-upper-caste-woman-2056054 

https://theprint.in/opinion/inter-caste-marriage-isnt-the-problem-marrying-a-dalit-man-is/262491/ 

2. Houses are not rented out. Doesn't matter even if you eat vegetarian food. You will be simply shown the door.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/finding-a-house-in-hassan-is-not-easy-for-muslims-dalits/article7266695.ece 

3. When it comes to postings in government jobs or facilities in job location. Doesn't matter even if you are an IAS, you will face discrimination. 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/caste-bias-plagues-civil-services-says-former-ias-officer/articleshow/72424416.cms 

https://theprint.in/india/governance/dalit-ias-officer-used-to-think-caste-bias-was-a-myth-now-hes-fighting-it/227427/ 

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/senior-telangana-ias-officer-quits-alleging-caste-discrimination-106264 

4. Even if you have the same set of skills, you will be discriminated against the applicants from so called upper castes. 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/scheduled-castes-among-worst-sufferers-of-india-s-job-problem/story-Qh0hyHy9UUTg1cIOpi5l2K.html 

http://www.isec.ac.in/WP%20361%20-%20Smritirekha%20Singhari%20and%20S%20Madheswaran%20-%20Final.pdf 


This is just the tip of the ice-berg. The subtle yet ferocious psychological trauma that one faces is beyond any physical pain. One feels like, am i even human like everyone else? why am i being treated differently at every step. If only were you in their shoes, would you understand the nerve wrenching experience associated with the existence.


Now I'm not claiming every SC/ST person to be a saint, I agree that just like in any community, there are some bad humans in this too, but they are in minority. There are a majority of SC/ST humans who are peaceful, neutral, just minding their own lives and yet being made to feel like why are we even born. No one deserves such undignified existence. Everyone needs to be treated like humans and IT'S YOU, ME AND EVERYONE else who need to RECOGNISE THIS FACT and STAND UP FOR THEM and MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY ARE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. 


What's ironical is that so many of us tweeted for BlackLivesMatter, but how many of us know that caste-ism and racism are very similar and yet, no one bats an eye for this. There have been international sanctions on countries for practicing racism and in our country, this oppression happens just like it's everyday business.

https://theconversation.com/racial-and-caste-oppression-have-many-similarities-37710 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/jugglebandhi/the-indian-caste-system-is-based-on-racism/ 

https://www.firstpost.com/india/indian-upper-caste-outrage-against-racism-in-the-west-is-in-jarring-contrast-to-apathy-towards-marginalised-at-home-8498041.html  


I can share so much more on this, but I hope that some of you understand what the discrimination is about and what you can do to make our society better. The change, my dear friends, starts from educating your near and dear ones. Ghar badlo toh desh badlega. 


I know some of you will be like media is reporting one side, toh bhaisaab let me tell you, i've seen all of this happening right infront of my eyes. Ab mai tumhara topper toh hu nahi jiski baat aap blindly maan jaoge. Isliye news articles daalne pade.


Bye for now.

Agree with many points .. but as far as marriage is concerned a brahmin boy cant marry a sc girl even..  girl family ll be ostrasized by their own cast panchayat ... My own brother married a girl frm obc community and we had to face many challanges...  their family was threatened . The father did nt even do the kanyadan .. long story..  marriage thing is more complicated . 

There is also a positive side to the cast discrimination story in india today ....  u ll nt find ny political party having a biased attitute towards lower cast or preach castism..  And this things are gradually improving.. Atleast in our generation.. My own roommets in college times were dalits ..  who cld have thought that 50yrs back.. The hate spreaded by few militant organisation and left are showing only one sided story with many layers to it..  It is causing more social fragmentation ...

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@Raillife below are the specific reasons why CLAT had to be postponed (some insider info😁)
1. major one being logistical reasons
2. City travel is a definate issue making it difficult both for the students and as well as supervisory staff to travel to the exam centres. The point being made was student should get a fair chance to appear for the exam.
3. Also hotels and restaurants in many states are still closed as of now because of lockdown restrictions, so it will pose a problem for the supervisory staff who will need to move out of their residence for invigilating duties and maybe also for students.
4. They concluded that situation is not conducive for the conduct of a national exam as of now and will conduct asap. when the situation improves.
As for neet/jee, meeting b/w the NTA and HRD will be held around mid August to discuss the matter again. Also 11 students filed petitions in SC.


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as directed by chanakya, i wrote test-33 of gsscore. 63 attempted. 57 correct .. final score 110/200.

final comments:- could have done better by answering 3 or 4 more bits.

i should work on some advanced macro economics sort ( if at all they be asked), and some current affairs part in depth..


****

ball to ball commentary:-

1 pulitzer don’t know 2 cvigil direct 3 doctrines direct 4 disq direct 5 day direct 6 goods direct 7 util curves elimination 8 psbloans elimination 9 cgtmse direct 10 rbi sch guess 11 digi pay direct 12 hunter don’t know 13 arya samaj strong gut feeling 14 swadeshi direct 15 karachi direct 16 settlemt direct 17 communal easiest bit ever 18 mahila sabhas heard for first time 19 quit indi direct 20 ambedkar don’t know 21 acts another easy bit 22 jute read it somewhere 23 seas wrong guess 24 boung direct 25 vembanad reverse guess from options 26 passes read somewhere but left out 27 fronts read somewhere but left out 28 rivers reverse guess from options 29 peaks I know about gurusikhar, then wrong guessed other 30 pvtg read about abujmarias and rest is option reverse working 31 NSS read about NCC-NSS at school. 32 cttees don’t know at this depth 33 sch easy 34 siva reddy read somewhere 35 plan bee read somewhere 36 rodra saw it for first time 37 sppel saw it for first time 38 art 178 easy 39 rupa easy 40 cj hc easy. Why should he exclude gov 41 spl status got confused with options 42 autonomous just this mrng discussed with a friend 43 pil bad guess about british. 44 rights another easy bit 45 jurisdiction easy 46 thrift easy 47 keynesian confused hence unattempted 48 elasticitiy easy 49 pfms confused hence unattempted 50 utkarsh easy 51 diem 25 unknown 52 nab unknown 53 philips curve fumbled due to options hence unattempted 54 IAT first time 55 capital reciept easy 56 fiscal deficit easy 57 zbb reverse guess from options 58 public instructio committee easy 59 chavang kut any kut will be of mizo. Hence easy 60 kailasa temple don’t know at this depth 61 kalidaasa easy. I heard both stories on AIR 62 IVC I thought they would have eliminated aryan debate. My bad 63 sarcenic style don’t know 64 jain god wrongly marked. I regret for this 65 bronze easy 66 mughal zamin easy 67 pari khanda don’t know 68 puppets reverse guess from options 69 samudrayaan don’t know 70 saffir simpson first time 71 palm oil read an editorial and marked correct. One of the most satisfying bits 72 mist and fog easy 73 minerals don’t know 74 IEMF first time 75 UNNaTEE confused hence unattempted 76 wipo easy 77 GRIHA read on pib 78 chakrashila I knew that its in assam,but nothing further 79 terms the term rhizo means root. That made the answer easy 80 crocodile don’t know much 81 ecological succession easy and eliminatio based 82 replan couldn’t recall much 83 pygmy hog don’t know at this depth 84 carbon credits confused hence unattempted 85 ramsar easy and eliminatio based 86 bioleaching read somewhere but left out 87 forest rights the paper setter is lenient to give such easy options 88 solar mission don’t know 89 hygo easy 90 oic worked from first option and great 91 osaka don’t know 92 ecosoc read in shankars 93 sacep don’t know 94 launchpad don’t know 95 prithvi 2 confused hence unattempted 96 cac read somewhere and attempted. Luckily its correct 97 exercises my banker cousin made me "rat maro" these 98 DPC a bit confused, but should have attempted this 99 RISAT 2B easy 100 folds don’t know much


overall:- I don’t think saraswati samman, pulitzer are asked in upsc some options are given in a very easy way some questions have flavors of previous papers. could have answered three or four bits score 110/200

Ques 25 Option 2

Says Vembanad is connected to Indian Ocean through backwaters.

Solution says its wrong. It’s connected to Arabian Sea through backwaters, despite being separated from by a narrow reef. 

What am I missing here? Arabian Sea is Indian Ocean. 

ssver2,
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@Chanakya my score - attempt-96
Correct-64, wrong -32
Total- 106.xx
Paper was not up to the mark IMO. Too many factual question and that too obscure fact.
Thanks for this ' testing' intitative amid debates of postpone, merger, reservation.


Chanakya,
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Aajao Aaj Reservation ka Class Lagate hai. 


I was silently just going through the thread to see if there was any information on prelims. The crass arguments against the reservation system forced me to login. 


You know what's sad? Those who don't even understand what kind of discrimination SC/ST community members face, have given interviews in civil services exam this year. It's not just sad, but appalling, abhorring and abominable. You inhuman beings are rotten pudine ke jhaad with zero utility. 


Before I make any arguments,

All those who think that Rich/Well Read/Govt Officers who belong to SC/ST community do not face discrimination. I HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU. 


STEPS TO FOLLOW FOR THE CHALLENGE:

1. GO TO YOUR PARENTS/ELDER RELATIVES IN YOUR HOUSE AND SAY GOOD EVENING.

2. ASK THEM IF THEY WILL ALLOW YOUR SIBLING/COUSIN TO MARRY AN IAS OFFICER/RICH PERSON BELONGING TO SC/ST COMMUNITY, BE IT ARRANGED OR LOVE MARRIAGE.

3. RECORD THE AUDIO/VIDEO OF THAT CONVERSATION and THEN COME POST IT HERE. 

4. AND THEN, HAPPILY AND JOYFULLY POST ALL YOUR ARGUMENTS AGAINST RESERVATION. 


The discrimination faced by SC/ST has least to do with poverty/economic inequality. It's the social inequality that has plagued them from thousands of years. If you don't at least understand this, please quit your upsc preparation. You'll do more harm than good as a civil servant.


For those who are unaware of what kind of discrimination SC/ST face:

1. Doesn't matter what the guy/girl does, doesn't matter how educated or rich he/she is. Doesn't matter how good of a human being they are, THEY WILL SIMPLY NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR MARRIAGE. You know what? Guys have been killed just because they belonged to SC/ST and they married so called upper caste girls. UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY NOW? LIVES WERE TAKEN OFF FOR NO REASON. Kabhi news bhi pad liya karo dimag khol ke.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/dalit-man-murdered-for-marrying-darbar-woman/articleshow/70151342.cms 

https://www.newsclick.in/dalit-man-MP-killed-marrying-upper-caste-woman-7-years-ago

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/two-arrested-for-killing-dalit-who-married-upper-caste-woman-2056054 

https://theprint.in/opinion/inter-caste-marriage-isnt-the-problem-marrying-a-dalit-man-is/262491/ 

2. Houses are not rented out. Doesn't matter even if you eat vegetarian food. You will be simply shown the door.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/finding-a-house-in-hassan-is-not-easy-for-muslims-dalits/article7266695.ece 

3. When it comes to postings in government jobs or facilities in job location. Doesn't matter even if you are an IAS, you will face discrimination. 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/caste-bias-plagues-civil-services-says-former-ias-officer/articleshow/72424416.cms 

https://theprint.in/india/governance/dalit-ias-officer-used-to-think-caste-bias-was-a-myth-now-hes-fighting-it/227427/ 

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/senior-telangana-ias-officer-quits-alleging-caste-discrimination-106264 

4. Even if you have the same set of skills, you will be discriminated against the applicants from so called upper castes. 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/scheduled-castes-among-worst-sufferers-of-india-s-job-problem/story-Qh0hyHy9UUTg1cIOpi5l2K.html 

http://www.isec.ac.in/WP%20361%20-%20Smritirekha%20Singhari%20and%20S%20Madheswaran%20-%20Final.pdf 


This is just the tip of the ice-berg. The subtle yet ferocious psychological trauma that one faces is beyond any physical pain. One feels like, am i even human like everyone else? why am i being treated differently at every step. If only were you in their shoes, would you understand the nerve wrenching experience associated with the existence.


Now I'm not claiming every SC/ST person to be a saint, I agree that just like in any community, there are some bad humans in this too, but they are in minority. There are a majority of SC/ST humans who are peaceful, neutral, just minding their own lives and yet being made to feel like why are we even born. No one deserves such undignified existence. Everyone needs to be treated like humans and IT'S YOU, ME AND EVERYONE else who need to RECOGNISE THIS FACT and STAND UP FOR THEM and MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY ARE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. 


What's ironical is that so many of us tweeted for BlackLivesMatter, but how many of us know that caste-ism and racism are very similar and yet, no one bats an eye for this. There have been international sanctions on countries for practicing racism and in our country, this oppression happens just like it's everyday business.

https://theconversation.com/racial-and-caste-oppression-have-many-similarities-37710 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/jugglebandhi/the-indian-caste-system-is-based-on-racism/ 

https://www.firstpost.com/india/indian-upper-caste-outrage-against-racism-in-the-west-is-in-jarring-contrast-to-apathy-towards-marginalised-at-home-8498041.html  


I can share so much more on this, but I hope that some of you understand what the discrimination is about and what you can do to make our society better. The change, my dear friends, starts from educating your near and dear ones. Ghar badlo toh desh badlega. 


I know some of you will be like media is reporting one side, toh bhaisaab let me tell you, i've seen all of this happening right infront of my eyes. Ab mai tumhara topper toh hu nahi jiski baat aap blindly maan jaoge. Isliye news articles daalne pade.


Bye for now.

1. marriage : yes! i dont feel ashamed to admit that my family will not accept. but brother some other thing need to be understood.
1.1 to be precise my father didnt agree to marry in any upper caste as well ( i declare I belong to one so-called upper caste)..... for that matter any other caste than my own.
1.2 even father of that SC/ST  girl wont be ready for our marriage and vica versa as well.
1.3 my father wont be ready to get me married in muslim family as well.
1.4 my father wont be agreeing to get me married with IVANCA TRUMP/ aishwarya rai as well.

i hope its not difficult for you as well to get it.

this is NOT discrimination. this is a cultural difference if you are in middle class it matters a lot. 
suddenly if I get settled in USA, my dad may ignore this and allow me to get married in any family probably considering the fact that my society has changed now. 

HENCE, I MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I CANT MARRY RANK 93 GIRL THIS YEAR IF I AM LISTENING TO MY FATHER. IF I TOP THE EXAM NEXT YEAR THEN ALSO LITTLE CHANCE TO CONVINCE HIM. ONLY OPTION IS I HAVE TO SETTLE IN USA WITH A MAALDAR JOB!! 

p.s you misunderstood the reservation, sc/st thing.  

rashiv,
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