[Results] Prelims 2020 Over - Gearing for 2021

Heard abt serum institute and bharat bio tech ? India supplies 60_70 percent of vaccine to world.. covaxin human trial has started . Serum ll be producing oxford vaccine with in months.. 

How many centers are there ? People from hinterlands ll visit those cities most of which are hotspot.. Then ll take back those virus to their villages and towns.. I shifted my center frm delhi to raipur nd now its a containment zone.. by oct raipur seems to be one of the worst hit city

And plz..  its not a war . Get over this millitary mindset . It suits only in border .

India produces 3billion doses of  vaccine per year and serum produces 1.2 bl doses on its own...   we dnt need to vaccinate all 140crore ..  40/50 percent ll do the job .  

Everything well and good, just that the virus doesn't like arrogance. Let's just pray that UPSC comes up with some foolproof arrangements to handle such a large crowd on a single day.

Else a few of us may end up paying very dearly. 

It's true that there won't be any vaccine as against hyped in media. Even if phase-3 trials are successful it will take months to come in the market, specially in india. But at least there has to be some flattening in the curve. (At least spread has to be contained in no of districts... Condition now is we have cases almost in every corner of cities) Right now, if mumbai is getting better , bihar, west bengal etc r going to be worse.

Corona doesn't infect only in exams. But here one doesn't have any safe choice regarding  travel, residence, food etc..All this for one day ...What is the cost to benefit?

I live in MH. In my city (& I think it holds true everywhere), hospitals are billing in not less than 2 lakhs, quarantine centres are in  poor condition. People r under stress more bcoz of this quarantine n hospital bill...This propels them not to take test, hide symptoms. If unemployment is a problem, then in this time this economic costs are also high. No political party is taking any tough stand.

Speaking about vaccines, there accuracy and efficiency is another topic. Availability of vaccine will not do any magic immediately.

What I feel is that this may take 4-5 months more to contain the spread. Corona will not vanish, but then we might have less no of containment zones (actually now I have 2-3 cases in my neighborhood, but only their house is sealed, I can walk through front of the house...so this is also a way containment zones are reducing/no increase...practical though) e.g. now in Germany, Italy, Spain etc, daily no of cases is significantly on lower side and lockdowns r being imposed where second/3rd wave is coming. But how much time it will take nobody knows. Crests and troughs cycle might continue, but gap between must be larger. Active cases rate should go down.

times are such as no prediction stands anywhere..pre will happen or not will be decided by how situation is uptoearly September

One of the easiest ways to start all the activities is through "effective" covering of the face. 

I really wish there was a face mask which could shield mouth, nose and eyes with 99% efficacy. This would enable all activities to return.

But, sadly there are no such masks and people don't even wear masks properly. (Those uncles who cover only their mouth while wearing masks :| ) 

I really hope there is some R & D going on to produce the most efficient face shield. If this is done, we will also get more time to develop proper vaccines. 

There are really interesting perspectives here in this discussion. I would like to add mine. 

I currently live in one of the remotest part of the nation. We used to joke about the virus reaching this far

But yesterday it did,  and today there were 2 deaths within my living radius of 2km. The cause of death,  though administratively isn't yet corona, but all here in the community know it definitely is. The age profile of the deceased was 32, fit as ever and healthy. 

The question that needs answering isn't about whether Pre would or would not happen on the 4th of Oct,  but whether as an individual / human being,  you are willing to take the mammoth risk of attempting the exam amidst 500 odd people on a crowded centre in a different city. Whether you would be in a free mind to think as required in Prelims in those 2 hours,  or you would keep your mind occupied with the person sitting behind you sneezing and reportedly has fever/ shivering.  It would not be a fair game at all. 

Corona is for real guys. Its knocking at our doors. The greatest achievement of our lives yet would be to survive this shit China has put us into. 

I think it's time to actually implement the hallowed statement put across by many topers ' Don't make this exam bigger than life'  

I wish for the good health of all here.  :) 

Not prepared ???? For what risking our family lives. My dad is a CMO and has to Serve the society even in such dire situation . He is diabetic and 8 out of 10 , yes I repeat 8 out of 10 people in his office have been tested positive. He recently lost 2 of his associates. He himself has been tested twice and due to god’s grace reports were negative . But now the situation is getting worse day by day . 

Going by your statements , it seems the only person actually unprepared for the exam is you my friend . Vaccines don’t work that way . They are not supposed to distributed like Prasad. Bharat biotech aur serum institute to bohot badey  h , zydus Cadilla in India is prepared to manufacture 10 million vaccines as soon as any trials are successful. It would be shared worldwide by any country . 

2. Vegetable aur fruits can be washed properly and they are a necessity , ye kya sabko hypocrite , hypocrite laga rakha h . “Corona can come anywhere “ you say and anybody who steps out of his/her home is to buy necessary things and that too on a risk . Upsc and essential items are not the same.

3. And what’s this argument “ what about guys reaching 28+ “ , u mean they don’t have another year to spare hence keeping in mind the urgency of some over aged people let’s risk it all ??? 28+ waley agar 6-8 mahine wait kar liye to menopause aa jaega kya unka ? 

P.s- no offence guys , I myself am 27 .

4. Even if there are 1 crore cases by jan , keep in mind this exam is a yearlong process , and everybody out there isn’t going through the same circumstance as you. Just because you are getting anxious , doesn’t mean u can label anyone as “hypocrite” . Now as the situation warrants we must adjust ourselves to this gap period and prepare accordingly even if exam is conducted in jan , aug or anytime .

@rafael I wish it was as simple as it looks. Please understand herd immunity doesn't work at any proposed loose numbers we throw at each other (saying 40-50% or 70-80%). There are several factors involved like demography, region specific etc etc ( a good layman explanation for understanding this is given in kurzegast video on herd immunity on YT). Also even if we have a number, production doesn't mean accessibility for all especially in a country like India.

As for exams happening or not, will the govt open up or not, we cannot rely on anything as of now, everyone even scientists and policy makers are understanding response to virus as of now. Heck the statistical models of last months can't be relied upon given the dynamic nature of problem here and ultimate shit will follow if it is found out that virus has mutated as major present trials across the world are based on earlier genome sequences of this virus. 

What we can only do is focus on controllables and prepare well for any situation (easier said than done). Pls ensure safety of your loved ones. Call it poetic or whatever, but this makes me realise that this is one of those beautiful tragic moments where maybe you'll come face to face with life and death. something so heart wrenching yet so ignored in our materialistic world. Cherish these moments.

Availability is always an issue when it's in private hands. That was anyhow not my point. 

The only major way virus comes out of anyone's body is through mouth and nose. If we find a way to block that 99% of times, we have a solution that will bring back economy to its life. Even public gatherings can be held. 

We need a mask for that. There's no such mask on earth as of now and I hope there is one in the future. 

And if there's such a mask in the future, don't worry. The govt will come at your doorsteps and give you that for free.

Hope you are safe buddy. Take care. Reminds me of our group conversations in March/April. 

5) suppose if a person gives prelims, and lateron he catches the virus, he may  spend the next fortnight in hospital. that effectively reduces his prep time for mains, which is clearly unfair . unlike jee exams which are a one-time performance capture exams, CSE is a multi level exam, where the candidate should excel at every stage. It will be unfair to punish someone for no fault of his.

6) the above point is applicable if he is in the 97% (recovered) category, better he loses a fortnight. But, if he is in the 3% category, he succumbs. It's a statisic for the rest of us, but it is a  life for his family.

6a) even if 1% of the aspirants catch the virus (1% of 6lakh), we end up with 6000 patients. and by a conservative 3% succumb rate, 180 of them will bid farewell.  interestingly, 180 is a sacred number. it is the number of vacancies for the so called elite services  among the total vacancy posts .  everyone of us want to be in that elite 180, but no one want to be in this notorious 180.

7) life is a gamble of assumptions, and i assume that unless the vaccine comes out or unless the cases get plateaued, the chances of exam being conducted is less. Bengaluru and parts of kerala which successfully contained the first blow of virus, opened up and unfortunately they are facing a second wave of infection.

8) fighting with a microbe is not similar to fighting with a person. none of our governments have experience in that. hence they are just selling optimism. and we have to buy what they sell. Even a single careless individual can spoil the entire game. its 100%  not in our hands to be safe. it's like the joker arranging two ships with alt explosives in  dark knight.// "my life is in the other's hands and his life is in my hands."// only if we all of us act sensibly can we get out of this pandemic. its a test to our collective intellect.

All the best.